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View Poll Results: Would you buy a FORD FOCUS DIESEL with 50 MPG at $25,000
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Old 05-11-2011, 12:18 PM   #31
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Any car is bond to break down and it will cost money to repair, I do think diesel will cost more to repair only because there are not that many out there however if they use the same engines all over the world repairs should not be high
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Old 05-11-2011, 03:22 PM   #32
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Any car is bond to break down and it will cost money to repair, I do think diesel will cost more to repair only because there are not that many out there however if they use the same engines all over the world repairs should not be high
It's not unheard of or unreasonable to expect a diesel engine to go 250,000 miles without needed any kind of major work done to them. Often times, the rest of the drivetrain and/or car itself falls apart long before a well built diesel engine.
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i would buy a diesel in a heartbeat! even if it's 50mpg still freakin awesome. I would do a deisel anyday over gas for numerous reasons. biofuel, effects on ecosystem, gas mileage, torque...
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EFF yes! diesel is the bomb, and 50mpg is verrrry nice
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I want a ford focus diesel!!!
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Old 05-13-2011, 01:47 PM   #36
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If I need MPG's I would buy Fiesta which gets 65 MPG (US).

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Diesels are more expensive to build and maintain for a few reasons: Obviously they're not real common here in the USA. They are more heavily built to withstand the high compression and turbocharging, and because they're often used in industrial/commercial applications. Turbos and charge air coolers are expensive. Diesel fuel systems are more complex and precise than gasoline fuel systems, and the injectors have to work with the tips in the combustion chambers. Fuel filters become more expensive and more important as the systems become more complex.

Gasoline engines are catching up in terms of fuel system complexity. These direct injection systems are essentially the same as a diesel common rail system, though the fuel pressures are lower and the combustion chamber temperatures and pressures are lower. I'm sure Ecoboosts are fine engines, but I have some reservations about repair costs. That high pressure fuel pump and those injectors could be expensive, and no doubt those turbos are expensive. I also have doubts about a turbo's longevity in a typical automotive duty cycle. Most of the wear on a turbo occurs when you shut the engine off, and the turbo spins down with no oil pressure provided to the bearings. If a car makes a lot of short trips, and the driver shuts the car down without idling for a bit first, the turbo bearings will wear a lot faster.

I don't think diesel cars make sense in the USA from an financial standpoint. They cost too much, the fuel costs too much, and the maintenance costs too much. Automotive diesels might last longer than gasoline engines, I'm not sure, but either one will last long enough nowadays for the car to fall apart around it. My brother's 1994 Corsica was a good example. It ran great, but the car was falling apart. How many people will keep the car that long anyway?
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Diesels are more expensive to build and maintain for a few reasons: Obviously they're not real common here in the USA. They are more heavily built to withstand the high compression and turbocharging, and because they're often used in industrial/commercial applications. Turbos and charge air coolers are expensive. Diesel fuel systems are more complex and precise than gasoline fuel systems, and the injectors have to work with the tips in the combustion chambers. Fuel filters become more expensive and more important as the systems become more complex.

Gasoline engines are catching up in terms of fuel system complexity. These direct injection systems are essentially the same as a diesel common rail system, though the fuel pressures are lower and the combustion chamber temperatures and pressures are lower. I'm sure Ecoboosts are fine engines, but I have some reservations about repair costs. That high pressure fuel pump and those injectors could be expensive, and no doubt those turbos are expensive. I also have doubts about a turbo's longevity in a typical automotive duty cycle. Most of the wear on a turbo occurs when you shut the engine off, and the turbo spins down with no oil pressure provided to the bearings. If a car makes a lot of short trips, and the driver shuts the car down without idling for a bit first, the turbo bearings will wear a lot faster.

I don't think diesel cars make sense in the USA from an financial standpoint. They cost too much, the fuel costs too much, and the maintenance costs too much. Automotive diesels might last longer than gasoline engines, I'm not sure, but either one will last long enough nowadays for the car to fall apart around it. My brother's 1994 Corsica was a good example. It ran great, but the car was falling apart. How many people will keep the car that long anyway?
If VW can sell an affordable diesel car in the USA I am 100% sure Ford can as well. Not to mention diesel fuel nationwide average is lower than gas. I think there is a huge market for a diesel Ford Focus in the USA as many people like myself are hesitant to purchase a hybrid it is a fairly young technology and the cost to replace the battery is outrages. I would buy a ford focus 50MPG diesel over any hybrid.
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Old 05-18-2011, 02:07 PM   #39
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I read on some forum that Hyundai has a diesel sonata out here in the USA but they are herd to find and do not show up on there website I have no idea if its true
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Old 05-18-2011, 04:12 PM   #40
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I would buy one in a heartbeat, i almost bought a golf diesel but i'm still hoping for ford diesel .
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