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Old 01-08-2011, 10:17 PM   #21
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Cool looking car. This will be at the top of it's class. Now, put a sport button in like the C-RZ Hybrid and then push the "quick" electric car in TV ads.
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i like the front that is how the focus should look non-hybrid

but drop a 5.4 in it and laugh at the tree huger lol (hybrid 5.4 lol)
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I would consider it for a work runner this would make a dent in my gas spendage but that is about it. With a limited range of 100 miles at best and no fueling infrastructure. For me this is not pratical. Until there are charging stations and increased range 300+ miles, this will never be a consideration for me.
Thats not to say that I dont support this tech cause I do and would love to see a this tech replace oil!! Its a great Idea and look forward to the day that I trade in my gas hog for a the 300hp electric equivalent.
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I think a lot of you are only concerned with performance and that's ok, but that certainly is not the purpose of this car. When gas prices sky rocket again, you might think twice about it. Think of it this way, you keep your SVT or fun car in the garage for weekends and long treks and your electric car is your work horse that runs you all around on your errands and such.

Personally, I like it and would own one if it had better range. Once these things hit 2-300 miles in range, game on.
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Looks just like the fiesta!
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electric cars are gonna be the future, and they're gonna be fast as hell too cuz electric motors have 100% torque instantly.....
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Nice but Niche (at least for now)

The basic problem is the limited range coupled with a lack of charging infrastructure.

Sure the marketing people claim that 100 miles is more than the average driven per day. But:

1. The range is likely only under perfect conditions, batteries shiny and new, no lights AC, heater etc.

2. Nobody will want to drive within 30 miles of the maximum range for fear of running out of juice and being stranded. Just look at fuel gauges on current cars, you can drive for at least 30 miles past empty and people still panic when it shows E.

3. Those average daily mileages ignore the fact that many of us have routine longer trips we need to accomplish. For example every 2 weeks I need to go to Rochester and back, round trip awfully close to 100 miles. What am I supposed to do for that ? buy a second car ? give me a break that isn't very eco friendly (or cost effective).


Honestly I really wish they'd at least offered a hybrid as well. I need a car that has enough flexibility to replace our working ZX5 runabout when it finally kicks the bucket.
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Even with the limited range, I am considering one.

there are too many pros, even despite that one huge con.

virtually no maintance. maybe near 100k you need some stuff, like struts, bearings, and batteries. but durring that time your not paying for LOFs, transmission flushes, altenators, coil packs, sparkplugs and wires, normal 12v batteries, clutches, fuelpumps, fuel filters.

you can save about 600-1000 on lube and filter change, a hundred or so on (good)tranny flushes, altenators are a pretty good nuissance at a hefty price, coil packs could go for about 100, spark plugs and wires also get up there in price too, 12v batteries are not cheap, close to $100, expect one to go out in 100K.

Clutches are about 800 w/labor. (or more)

Im just tring to prove that ICE aren't cheap to run/maintain/operate
(though I understand that Li batteries are $$$, same with copper motors,and advanced regen braking componets)

all in all, the electric car over simplifies the equation. and all the important parts are covered by some sort of emmissions regulation.

right now, electric cars barely squeek out as "cost effective" in the long run, but if oil and gas prices continue to rise... electric cars will look more and more appealling.

I have already seen a hybrid car battery salvaged at 80k miles or so. It had 3 bad cells, it took 2 very high-end battery testers (~$500) and some good old fashion ebay action and about 250 more dollars, to keep from replacing a $3000 dollar battery.

so yeah, batteries are an issue, but there are ways around "replacing". and that trend will carry throughout the industry. That and economies of scale, coupled with advancing technology will drive the price to its floor. So when the time would come... its not going to hurt as bad.


and yeah, if I had one, I would have another gas powered one for long trips. But even i could daily a focus electric most of the year.
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Honestly I really wish they'd at least offered a hybrid as well. I need a car that has enough flexibility to replace our working ZX5 runabout when it finally kicks the bucket.
Paying attention to what Ford announced yesterday.........

Based on the same new Focus platform introducing the new C-Max Plug in Hybrid called the C-Max Energi......C-MAX Energi targets more than 500 miles (800 kilometers) of driving range using the battery and engine, more than any other plug-in or extended-range vehicle.



Next choice again based on the same new Focus platform introducing the new C-Max Hybrid, C-MAX Hybrid is targeted to deliver better miles per gallon than Ford Fusion Hybrid, the most fuel-efficient sedan in America




Ford will launch C-MAX Energi, its first-ever production plug-in hybrid electric vehicle, and C-MAX Hybrid, a full hybrid variant, in North America in 2012 and Europe in 2013

• Both versions of the five-passenger multi-activity vehicle will leverage the company’s global C-car platform, critically acclaimed powersplit hybrid architecture, next-generation driver information features and advanced, lighter and smaller lithium-ion (Li-ion) battery systems Both the C-MAX Energi and C-MAX Hybrid models will be built alongside the all-new 2012 Ford Focus and Focus Electric at Ford’s Michigan Assembly Plant in Wayne, Mich.

Ford North America big goal is to have a vehicle type or choice to hopefully satisfy mosts consumers wants and desires

BTW the 5 passenger C-Max as shown above is like your current ZX5 with great driving feel but just a liitle taller, with the same 5 door useability

DIMENSIONS (inches) 5 passenger C-Max
EXTERIOR
Wheelbase 104.2
Length 173.6
Width 71.9 (excluding mirrors)
Height 63.7
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Focus Electric DIMENSIONS
(inches unless otherwise noted)
EXTERIOR
Wheelbase 104.3
Length 171.7
Width 72.4
Height 58.9
Track,
front/rear
61.2/60.4
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Old 01-11-2011, 02:29 PM   #30
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Cool, thanks a lot for the info.

The C Max sounds like a possibility, although I likely need to wait well into 2012/2013 to get it. I had my heart set on another Focus but in 2 years, I'll see how I feel.
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