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Old 09-15-2010, 09:05 PM   #101
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Current Euro ST 2.5 L 225 hp in Croatia costs 29500 euros.

VW Golf GTI 2.0 L 210 hp in Croatia costs 29200 euros
VW Golf GTI 2.0 L 210 hp in USA costs 24000 US dollars

Mazda 3 MPS 2.3 L 260 hp in Croatia costs 338000 euros
Mazda 3 MPS 2.3 L 260 hp in USA costs 24000 US dollars

So I think new Focus ST will cost in Croatia around 32000 euros
and in USA around 27000 US dollars!
Thank you for the excellent comparison, Z.
I think your figures are just about spot on for the ST.
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Old 09-15-2010, 09:19 PM   #102
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+1 for the STI and EVO being overrated. This ST Focus is and was never meant to compete with these. This is a FWD hot hatch, that's it's target. The MS3, Astra VXR (Europe mainly), Renault Clio Sport (Europe mainly), Civic Si, VW GTI and etc. In the US the MS3 is the only real competitor in this price, features and power bracket. The VW R32 is close, but it is AWD and really in the same catagory as the STI/EVO in terms of price.
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Old 09-15-2010, 09:37 PM   #103
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+1 for the STI and EVO being overrated. This ST Focus is and was never meant to compete with these. This is a FWD hot hatch, that's it's target. The MS3, Astra VXR (Europe mainly), Renault Clio Sport (Europe mainly), Civic Si, VW GTI and etc. In the US the MS3 is the only real competitor in this price, features and power bracket. The VW R32 is close, but it is AWD and really in the same catagory as the STI/EVO in terms of price.
agree with every statement in what you said.

I totally hate people who say their evo is better than a focus...no shit, its costs 3x as much!
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Old 09-15-2010, 09:41 PM   #104
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Old 09-15-2010, 10:05 PM   #105
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250? serious?
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I looooove the interior. The exterior-MEH.
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Did you mean a base Focus ST would be $24-$26k MSRP? There's absolutely no way a base Focus S (non-ST) would start at $24k. The base model will start right around $17k. An SE (next trim level up) will probably start at $18.5k - $19k. The base Fiesta S starts $13,995. Ford's pricing has to be competitive, especially nowadays. Ford totally rocks but their not BMW.
$30K trust me. I'm bookmarking this post so I can come back to it when the MSRP releases. At the very least MSRP is gonna be 27K at least.
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Old 09-15-2010, 11:01 PM   #108
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I looooove the interior. The exterior-MEH.
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it needs a different front end in my opinon, i like the rest other than the 2 extra doors in the back..im not crazy thats it EB but im sure it will be fun with 250hp and a 2 speed
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that front end is gross. open wide

why is everybody building cars with ridiculously large grills/front end? Mazda, GM, Ford, SAAB to name a few. It DOES NOT LOOK GOOD. what happened to aerodynamics?
I'm surprised more people haven't voiced this opinion. No one else thinks that front end is WAY too much? It has a giant, gaping maw. Honestly the car doesn't do that much for me. Maybe if/when I drive one my mind would be changed, but I certainly don't like it enough to consider ditching the car I have now, or my plans to buy a 5.0 in a year or two. Frankly the looks seem to be writing a check it's performance won't be able to cash.

I liked the SVT because it was subtle, only those who were in the "know" could see a difference, it had a European flair. This thing still looks like a Toyota Venza to me.
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Old 09-15-2010, 11:14 PM   #109
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$30K trust me. I'm bookmarking this post so I can come back to it when the MSRP releases. At the very least MSRP is gonna be 27K at least.
Which is it? $30k or $27k? You can't say I told you so if you're gonna be wishy-washy.
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