CGI Block - Page 3

mstng46 · 07-06-2010, 09:39 PM

cgi-compacted graphite iron.....on a side note...the powerstroke just STARTED using it in the new 6.7.

do you think you could site your sources on this research?

you may be 27 but you post like a noob... 300 whp on a svt engine...not zetec...

do us a favor and stop posting on my thread

szabyk · 07-06-2010, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by forcedfocus

Most of this is just wrong.

There are plenty of guys doing or have done 500+ on the stock block and crank, Tom included.

there are a few people who have done 300+whp on the stock engine, Tom included. Not saying it will last along time but it has been done.

There is a guy on this site with a zetec in a fiesta in Europe with a stock block and crank that turns 8500rpm and makes something like 550bhp and plenty of others across the pond with NA zetecs turning over 8-8500rpm.

The stock block IS cast iron but the CGI is some High carbon impregnated cast iron. What ever it is it is the same stuff the Powerstroke blocks are made of.

I may not know everything about the zetec but it appears I know more than you.

sometimes even higher RPM...

forcedfocus · 07-07-2010, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mstng46

cgi-compacted graphite iron.....on a side note...the powerstroke just STARTED using it in the new 6.7.

do you think you could site your sources on this research?

you may be 27 but you post like a noob... 300 whp on a svt engine...not zetec...

do us a favor and stop posting on my thread

Is this a research paper now I have to site my sources? Do yourself a favor and search somewhere off of this site and you will actually find some good information. People don't like it when you cross post from FJ over here for whatever reason. And there are many other places to get information as well. Im not saying there is no good info over here because there is, just to look elsewhere in addition to FF.

My original point is to spend 4k on a cgi block and forged crank for 5-600whp it totally unnecessary when people are doing it on the stock stuff. A stock block and crank can be had for less than 300 bucks. Its just like with the hondas people say that you have to have a sleeved block to do over 500whp when people are doing 700whp, shit, I know a guy doing 500whp on a stock 80k mile GSR motor.

Oh, and people have done as much as 340whp&wtq on a bone stock zetec.

***1turbofocus*** · 07-07-2010, 11:08 AM

Yes and killed the claimed 340 engine first time he tried to do that off the dyno , dyno queens dont count

I did 326HP on the bone stock Zetec back in 2001 and many drove it doing that and I track raced it , whats your point , it isnt safe and it wont last long

Yes 500 can and has been done on the stock block and stock crank no one said it couldnt , do you know what the block saddles look like after this , have you blacklighted a crank after this or stress tested one , your giving a lot of info that you cannot back up with anything but he said and got that from some one that use to work there which in my opinion is worthless

Tom

forcedfocus · 07-07-2010, 12:41 PM

The motor may have let go shortly after being at that power but it did make several 1/4 mile passes including a best of 12.7 and was still driven for a short time afterward. Enough of that, that is a whole different subject.

Here is a serious question. Does any one have a pic of the CGI from the bottom showing the main caps and webbing in the block? also, the CGI block is supposed to be 25-30% stronger right? Hp/torque is stress so if it is accepted and plausible that the CGI can handle 1000+ with a forged crank would the standard not handle 700 with a forged crank? That is 30% less, is it not?

I found

but i would like to be able to see the webbing and stuff better

szabyk · 07-07-2010, 12:59 PM

My engine runs for 3 years...stock block and crankshaft was never any problem with...(Older Zetec engine)

though only runs on drag racing...but it runs more than 100 pass.
more than 20 mapping...

Only problem was the oil pump..

I do not know exactly how much power....

forcedfocus · 07-07-2010, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by szabyk

My engine runs for 3 years...stock block and crankshaft was never any problem with...(Older Zetec engine)

though only runs on drag racing...but it runs more than 100 pass.
more than 20 mapping...

Only problem was the oil pump..

I do not know exactly how much power....

how much does it weigh? cause you can approximate it with your 1/4 mile mph? and you have a shitton of that.

szabyk · 07-07-2010, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by forcedfocus

how much does it weigh? cause you can approximate it with your 1/4 mile mph? and you have a shitton of that.

the car with me 2100lb..
speed 150mph

***1turbofocus*** · 07-07-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by forcedfocus

The motor may have let go shortly after being at that power but it did make several 1/4 mile passes including a best of 12.7 and was still driven for a short time afterward. Enough of that, that is a whole different subject.

Here is a serious question. Does any one have a pic of the CGI from the bottom showing the main caps and webbing in the block? also, the CGI block is supposed to be 25-30% stronger right? Hp/torque is stress so if it is accepted and plausible that the CGI can handle 1000+ with a forged crank would the standard not handle 700 with a forged crank? That is 30% less, is it not?

I found

but i would like to be able to see the webbing and stuff better

Who gives a crap and what diff does it make , almost every engine he has had has had failures and i doubt seriously it made any passes acording to his rambeling on fj but again who cares and what diff does it make

If you dont want a CGI block then dont use it , for those that want the best for there engine safety let them find and buy a CGI

Tom