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Old 06-04-2009, 11:11 AM   #31
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I have to say the toe in on the front makes a big difference.
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Old 06-04-2009, 12:00 PM   #32
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From the looks of the fender gap ... that is some body roll.
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Tons of body roll (stock suspension 133k miles), hopefully the bigger sway bar will reduce that a little as well. Eventually I am going to pick up some SVT shocks and dampers but that won't be for a while.

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I have to say the toe in on the front makes a big difference.
Could you explain? Going from the factory spec toe, to a more aggressive toe I really noticed no difference in handling.
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Old 06-04-2009, 02:31 PM   #33
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Toe out helps turn-in. Toe-in helps high-speed stability...
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Old 06-04-2009, 04:33 PM   #34
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my tires are getting killed. I have had to resort to swapping them on the rims occasionally (IE inside is running facing outwards).
Still running 42psi in the front??
Try 45-48 next time.
And, you shouldn't need 45psi out back.
I'd drop that down to 40.
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Old 06-04-2009, 05:03 PM   #35
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Still running 42psi in the front??
Try 45-48 next time.
And, you shouldn't need 45psi out back.
I'd drop that down to 40.
Yep, still running 42. I'll try your suggestion out this weekend.

It is not that they're getting killed, they just wear all the way down to the line where the sidewall meets the face (??) of the tire. This is past the wear indicators, but still technically not the sidewall.

I had the rears pumped up to 45 to try to promote some oversteer, but I'll it out!
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Old 06-04-2009, 05:07 PM   #36
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You never know till you try.
Sometimes getting out of your "comfort zone" is the only way to see improvements (or lack thereof at times).
I've run as high as 50psi in the front before I got stiffer sidewall tires and then camber plates.
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So I ran an event on Sunday, overall I was happy with my performace. I ended up 3rd in novice out of 7, and only an STi and an Evo X beat me.

I ran my tires at 48/42 and they seemed to handle well, I thought I was going to lose a bunch of traction by adding that much pressure in the front but I was surprised.

I like the 21mm FSB, it made transitions much more crisp and I could tell it eliminated some of my body roll. (Although it did add a tad bit of understeer)

The local SCCA is putting on a school the 27/28 so that will be my next time out. Plans are to put some toe-out up front, and run neutral in the rear. We will see how it goes!
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Sweet! Thanks for the update.
So, ya like that much pressure up front now?
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Before I built my suspension, I always had better luck with higher pressures in the front. Don't worry about the FSB. Learn to adjust your driving to prevent understeer, or you'll go crazy over your setup and not improve your times or learn much. Plenty of national level stock class cars run big FSBs to control camber and improve transitions. Just don't overdrive it. Slow is fast! The best people out there are usually boring to watch.
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it would be really nice if the link referenced at the beginning of the thread would get fixed
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