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Old 04-04-2008, 01:04 PM   #41
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I believe that the 3 cars get their extra HP from VVT, but correct me if i'm wrong.
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yea, to me the three is kinda the little brother that the focus never had, and the speed is the brother on steroids. the only thing that i'm really pissed about is the fact that they have a five lug set up. and 4 wheel disk brakes.
little brother, lol...

the focus is a good car, but the 3 is superior in pretty much every way..more power, better fit and finish, superior chassis, better styling, better interior....you realize the 3 is basically the same car as the european focus that most focus owners here curse that we dont get here ? I got my focus because of price alone...with "A" plan and a huge rebate it was an easy choice...a comparably equipped 3 to my ST would have been over $20K, where my focus I got for $15K
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:26 PM   #43
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I think a Turbo+Intercooled SVT would own the Speed3 :) Not by a lot, but by a definitive amount.
too many variables...what kit, what turbo, how much boost...

some low boost kits i've seen, no way...some of the higher boost kits, absolutely !!
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:27 PM   #44
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yes, but stock for stock the 2.3 3's are slower then a dura focus. i mean its kinda sad if you think about it. they weigh way to much.
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yes, but stock for stock the 2.3 3's are slower then a dura focus. i mean its kinda sad if you think about it. they weigh way to much.
ummm, no they aren't...i'm assuming you are talking about 2.3L duratec, which I own...and not a 2.0L Duratec...because that would be crazy

I've raced a 3 in my ST, and it's all about the driver

you can pull the data yourself too if you'd like...a Mazda 3 2.3L and an ST Focus pull high 15's to low 16's, depending on how good you are...there is no clear cut "faster car"....
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ok my 2.0 dura will walk my best friends 07 2.3 3. trust me we have proved this point many a many times. mine is a hatch tho. not a sedan. the only i have an intake and a cat back(still running both cats.) and he has an intake. i walk off and leave him by about 3-4 cars. depending on how much i spin tires.
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where is this idea that Mazda 3's are heavy ???

Mazda 3s curb weight = 2760 lbs

Focus ZTS 2.3L = 2739lbs

Focus ST 2.3L = 2685lbs
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ok my 2.0 dura will walk my best friends 07 2.3 3. trust me we have proved this point many a many times. mine is a hatch tho. not a sedan. the only i have an intake and a cat back(still running both cats.) and he has an intake. i walk off and leave him by about 3-4 cars. depending on how much i spin tires.
Then your buddy cant drive worth a crap....
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ok in third gear from same speed we can both gas on it and mine will walk away from him no problem at all. same hold for every other gear as well.
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ok in third gear from same speed we can both gas on it and mine will walk away from him no problem at all. same hold for every other gear as well.
then something is wrong with his car.....sorry, but a stock 2.0 focus is NOT a faster car than a 2.3L Mazda 3...it's a fact

Mazda 3s 0 - 60 = 7.97 secs

Ford Focus ZX3 0 - 60 = 8.6 secs

these are times repeated by R & T, Autoweek, C & D, etc

you think you and you're buddy conduct a better test ?
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