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Old 12-05-2007, 01:53 PM   #31
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Sorry dont read in here much.

From what I remember the SVT did a best of mid 1.90`s and the ZX3 did a best on high 2.0`s both on BFG G-Force drag radials

I dont take my engine much past about 2800 to 3000 to launch a little common sence has to be used anything can be tore up and broken, I have been to well over 50 Fun Ford Weekends and seen many 300+HP Foci in the Focus class and never not one time was there a broken axle as well as have built over 100 300HP+ cars with out any breaking axles to date in the last 7 years

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Thanks for taking the time to reply.

Honestly I was expecting to hear some better 60ft times than just 1.9 -2.1 from cars with 300 plus whp. Why were you only running BFG Drag Radials instead of a full slick? Have you ever tried either car on slicks?

Just because a car put down 300 plus whp doesn't mean that they're taking their cars to the drag strip and running them to there full potential. If you can say for a fact that some of those cars were run at the drag strip on a real tire, pulling 1.7x 60fts or better, manual trans, and not breaking stock axles, then I would see your point. Otherwise dyno numbers, street miles, and slippery 60ft's don't prove the strength of the stock axles. Even stock hp rear wheel drive cars like Mustangs need to upgrade their axles when running on slicks with red line launches.


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My ZX3 has one of my built Focus-Power engines and a custom built Lentech ATX with trans break and Man valve body has made about 75 450HP + passes on the Factory axles , about 300 300 to 450HP passes on the same and about 9 600+ passes on the all stock factory axles
It sounds like with that power, a Lentech, and a trans break you should of been able to really pull some good launches. What stopped you from at least getting out of the 2.x 60fts?


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What RPM is he launching at ? If its something like 4500+ and he twangs his foot off of it then even if he fixes the axle issue he wont be able to keep a MTX in it , I have seen many MTX Trans broken at the track

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Launching off the two-step at about 5000rpms and a couple psi of boost. I don't understand what the problem with that is. Every other front wheel drive drag car does the same. If you want to get the best ET possible out of your combo then your going to have to drive it to its full potential.

A set of full billet 300M alloy steel axles are going into the car. So, I guess we'll find out the breaking point of the MTX when it comes to launching. Its already got a quaife in it so I doubt the differential will break. If anything the gears and shafts are going to have to be treated if they end up breaking.
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Old 12-05-2007, 04:08 PM   #32
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Becausse I wanted to do it on the tires I drove to the track and back home with if thats what I wanted to do. At the Fun Ford Weekends I would drive it to the Motel at night and back because it was street legal as were the tires

I ran a 10.95 @ 137 First and only one in the 10`s to me is one heck of a test to what the stock axles will do holding 700+

To me it isnt worth the abuse and allways working on stuff to get low 60 foot times for a 10th or two if I want that i will turn up the boost and let the HP do the work , to me 5000RPM and sliding my foot off the clutch to get better 60 foot is far to much abuse and has shown you that , if he would of launched at 3500 he wouldnt of run that much slower and wouldnt be spending big bucks on axles and working on his car and could of had more fun making another 2 , 5 , 10 more passes that night

I enjoy running at the track not working on the Focus all the time

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Old 12-05-2007, 07:14 PM   #33
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A set of full billet 300M alloy steel axles are going into the car. So, I guess we'll find out the breaking point of the MTX when it comes to launching. Its already got a quaife in it so I doubt the differential will break. If anything the gears and shafts are going to have to be treated if they end up breaking.
Where are you getting these axles from?
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Old 12-05-2007, 09:09 PM   #34
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They're custom from DriveShaft Shop, I believe.
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Old 12-06-2007, 02:35 PM   #35
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Becausse I wanted to do it on the tires I drove to the track and back home with if thats what I wanted to do. At the Fun Ford Weekends I would drive it to the Motel at night and back because it was street legal as were the tires
The tires run on the car when the axles broke were DOT Approved Hoosier Drag Radials. The car been driven on the street with them and skinnies in the rear with no problems at all. Car was also driven to the track which is about 75miles one way.

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I ran a 10.95 @ 137 First and only one in the 10`s to me is one heck of a test to what the stock axles will do holding 700+
Congrats on slipping into the 10's. How many times has the car run in the 10's?

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To me it isnt worth the abuse and allways working on stuff to get low 60 foot times for a 10th or two if I want that i will turn up the boost and let the HP do the work , to me 5000RPM and sliding my foot off the clutch to get better 60 foot is far to much abuse and has shown you that , if he would of launched at 3500 he wouldnt of run that much slower and wouldnt be spending big bucks on axles and working on his car and could of had more fun making another 2 , 5 , 10 more passes that night
A general rule of thumb in drag racing is that a 10th in the 60ft is worth two 10th's in the 1/4 mile.The difference in ET between a 1.65 60ft and a 2.05 60ft is quite drastic. Do the math. I think most would agree that its quite a bit more impressive to run the best ET with the least amount of power. Having 2000hp to wheels and running 9's would be a joke. Yet having 550whp and running 9's would be quite different...
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Where are you getting these axles from?
As CaySe said, the axles are indeed from The Drive Shaft Shop.

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Old 12-13-2007, 06:49 PM   #37
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1turbofocus,

So, how many times did your Focus run the in 10's? Just curious to see how long they have held up for you...
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I made 2 passes in the 10`s 40 to 50 in the 11`s hundreds in the 12`s

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I've beat on my axles for 2 years now without any issues.. running anywhere from 302whp to 365whp depending on the tune and boost at the time.

I dont run it at the strip... but I do get pretty rough with it.
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I made 2 passes in the 10`s 40 to 50 in the 11`s hundreds in the 12`s

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I still don't really see how you can say its a testament to the strength of the stock axles when only two very high 10sec passes were made. Again the 60fts on those passes were comparable to what a stock hp Focus can pull and the fact that only 2 passes were made at the "700hp +" power level really hurts the credibility of that claim.

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I've beat on my axles for 2 years now without any issues.. running anywhere from 302whp to 365whp depending on the tune and boost at the time.

I dont run it at the strip... but I do get pretty rough with it.
Well since you don't run at the drag strip I can't imagine you stressing the stock axles. Even if you were to launch your Focus with sticky tires on the street it wouldn't be nearly as hard on the axles compared to launching at a well prepped drag strip. To prove my point look at the video below. 5500rpm 2 step launch and the axles didn't break. Why? Because it was on the street and the street doesn't hook like the track.

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