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Old 10-03-2007, 12:03 AM   #31
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I don't understand how this site doesn't allow posting of illegal speeds but allows a how-to on the removal of standard safety equipment.

What amazes me more is that this is for the removal of the PASSENGER airbag, so he is putting the life of the PASSENGER in the hands of the safety restraints he has. Bet he still has the driver's airbag.
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What amazes me more is that this is for the removal of the PASSENGER airbag, so he is putting the life of the PASSENGER in the hands of the safety restraints he has. Bet he still has the driver's airbag.
My uncle's Ford Ranger has a switch from the factory for cutting off the passenger side airbag [bootyshak
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I don't understand how this site doesn't allow posting of illegal speeds but allows a how-to on the removal of standard safety equipment.
Cause it's not illeagel to remove an airbag. Airbags are not required equipment. They are not even standard eqiupment they are an option.



I mean damn somebody goes to all the work to do a nice detailed write up on a mod, and all you can do is look for things to bitch about???

if you like your airbags KEEP'EM

and if you don't, well now you know how to take'em out
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I mean damn somebody goes to all the work to do a nice detailed write up on a mod, and all you can do is look for things to bitch about???

if you like your airbags KEEP'EM

and if you don't, well now you know how to take'em out
But it's a destructive way of removing it.
It would be like someone explaining how to remove your motor by cutting all the mounts out with a torch and slicing every wire and hose with a knife.
Sure, the end result it that the motor is out, but it's just the wrong way.
We call that the RSB method, Rip $hit or Bust.

I appreciate all the constructive little childish 19 year old comments directed at me, that really makes new people feel welcome.
Is this site moderated all or part of the time?
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Dan-O, if you have the time and know-how to do this install by the book, then by all means, do it that way, I made it quite clear that this was not the book method, but, I work 12-16 hours a day and don't have a lot of time to spend on my car, so this method worked better for me, and I thought someone else might want to know about it

and, as far as the "constructive little childish 19 year old comments", I'm a 27 yr old business owner, not a child, but, I'm sorry if I've offended you, and welcome to Focus Fanatics, trust me, it's a great place, but you can't write comments like yours and not expect some sort of retort
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:38 AM   #37
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I appreciate all the constructive little childish 19 year old comments directed at me, that really makes new people feel welcome.
Is this site moderated all or part of the time?

Well, from what I"ve seen the site seems to be moderated pretty well. The moderators are everywhere and they even post in the threads most of the time.
Now, if someone in a thread were to make personal insults towards another member, they get slapped down politely ,but quite quickly. Most of the time a polite note of " don't do that" is all it takes. I , however, did not see any personal attacks in this thread. It was a somewhat "heated" discussion, but everyone stayed polite and on focus. So I see no problems with this thread.

BTW, the 50's hotrod comment wasn't childish? As you put it? Come on now. You were throwing the gauntlet out there and wanted to see if anyone would pick it up.
This forum is for the exchange of ideas. There can be opposing sides and disagreements; as long as they stay civil we can even have full blown arguements. We often do.

Welcome to Focus Fanatics, I hope you like it here. Its a good spot on the web.

You gotta watch out for those moderators though, they are everywhere !
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Old 10-03-2007, 11:59 AM   #38
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You know what. I went to the street racing forum and saw this.

If someone crashes, and someone is injured or killed, you could be arrested and charged with Reckless Driving or Manslaughter.

I doubt that forcibly removing an airbag on your passenger, getting in an accident and injuring/killing them DOESN'T get you nailed with manslaughter, criminal negligence, or something else just as bad besides (almost) killing the passenger.

You say you have seat belts or that you're the best driver in the world. You're not, sorry. Seat belts fail, they are mechanical and regardless of anything you've seen, they do fail. Why would you even remove a safety device that is pre-installed on your car is beyond me, and I bet beyond ANY logical person.

I can't see ANY reason to remove an air bag. You want your kid to sit in the car? Put them in the back where they won't go anywhere dangerous. You want a tray? Use your door tray or the pocket behind the seat. Just feel like doing it to save a couple of pounds? Don't come crying when you hurt someone or yourself.
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You say you have seat belts or that you're the best driver in the world. You're not, sorry. Seat belts fail, they are mechanical and regardless of anything you've seen, they do fail. Why would you even remove a safety device that is pre-installed on your car is beyond me, and I bet beyond ANY logical person.

I can't see ANY reason to remove an air bag. You want your kid to sit in the car? Put them in the back where they won't go anywhere dangerous. You want a tray? Use your door tray or the pocket behind the seat. Just feel like doing it to save a couple of pounds? Don't come crying when you hurt someone or yourself.
1.)I NEVER said I was the best driver in the world. I am better than most, but I'm worried about the nut next to me who is doing her make-up in the rearview while chatting on the cell phone. I know she can take me out.

2.) seat belts fail. Yes they do, and so do air bags.. Your point?

3.) Logical? Well, I consider myself a VERY logical person. It annoys my wife that I apply logic to EVERYTHING in life, but you wouldn't know that.

4.) Any reason ?? None AT all? How about, as stated earlier, driving in a demolition derby?


5.) Kid in the back? I DRIVE A MIATA !!!! Are you suggesting I put my child in the trunk? Or perhaps strap him to the rear bumper? Talk about manslaughter charges !!!

6.) Me personally. I can't see removing an airbag just to make a tray, or save weight ( except on the racetrack). But, as I said before, this is America, and it is HIS car. He can't sell it that way, but he sure can drive it that way.

7.) My miata now has a 12 inch steering wheel with no airbag. Is it trendy? NO WAY. I am 6'3" and 250 lbs. with ALOT of torso. The only way for me to drive a miata safely is to remove the seat rails. Thus lowering the seat 1.5 inches. The seat is now static. And to put on this smaller wheel. The stock steering wheel is right against my diaphram and the air bag would rip my head off. If I was 5'10". The airbag, and stock wheel would still be in the car. Sorry, I'm a big guy that likes little cars.

So, I ask you. Still see NO reason why someone would remove an airbag?


P.S. Read the note on your visor in your airbag equipped car. It has the world DEATH in bold type. Now read it again.
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:23 PM   #40
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I never meant anything directed at you. I'm just saying that you hear "I'm an awesome driver" way too many times.

I know air bags fail, but if you have two or more safety systems protecting you, rather than just relying on one, there's less chance of a total failure.

I don't know how many people are driving their focus in a demo derby :(

Again, focus. I don't think a miata is a great car to have kids in anyway.. it's a large go-kart.
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