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Old 02-20-2013, 08:00 AM   #1
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Looking at a 2013 SE 5spd - Talk me into a Powershift

Looking seriously at 2013 SE Hatchbacks
So far we have only driven a couple of 5spd manual transmission cars.

I had sort of discounted the Powershift 6spd auto versions based on what Car and Driver said about the 2012 SE they tested.
The complaints I've seen relate mostly to the transmission frequently being in the wrong gear for the conditions.
The only negative I can see to the 5spd is that at 75 or 80mph the engine is turning a bit faster than I expected. (Too bad its not a 6spd).

Is the Powershift 6spd reliable and how long has Ford been using this type of transmission?
How do you like yours and the gear change decisions it makes?
It also sounds like creeping up to something slowly is a bit different, can someone describe how it compares to an auto with a torque converter?

What type of life is expected from the dual clutches compared to a standard clutch in a 5spd?
Is the 6spd Powershift geared a bit higher in top gear than the 5spd?
I know your supposed to get another 1-2 mpg but what is acceleration like?

Any advice and information is appreciated.


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Old 02-20-2013, 08:07 AM   #2
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If you enjoy driving manual, get the 5speed.

I will admit I have the DCT and I have not had any major issues, but there are tons of people who have major problems with it.

One of the biggest being leaking seals, which require the clutches to be replaced, along with hard shuddering and grinding noises.

The only "issue" I have, which ford says is normal, is light shuddering when accelerating from a stop or creeping slowly in traffic.

Other people have reported their DCT's overheating with the car telling them via warning message to pull over and let the car sit for a few minutes.

You would seriously be an idiot if you decide to go with the DCT if you read these forums thoroughly.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:15 AM   #3
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Thanks for the honesty, we do enjoy driving a manual.
Just wanted to make sure I wouldn't be sorry I didn't consider the DCT, sounds like we should continue on with a 5spd.

Also have a post here about the deals we have been offered, comments appreciated.
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Thanks for the honesty, we do enjoy driving a manual.
Just wanted to make sure I wouldn't be sorry I didn't consider the DCT, sounds like we should continue on with a 5spd.

Also have a post here about the deals we have been offered, comments appreciated.
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I will admit I have the DCT and I have not had any major issues, but there are tons of people who have major problems with it.

One of the biggest being leaking seals, which require the clutches to be replaced, along with hard shuddering and grinding noises.

The only "issue" I have, which ford says is normal, is light shuddering when accelerating from a stop or creeping slowly in traffic.

Other people have reported their DCT's overheating with the car telling them via warning message to pull over and let the car sit for a few minutes.

You would seriously be an idiot if you decide to go with the DCT if you read these forums thoroughly.
You would think that Ford knows about the problem with the seal and replaced it (with a better one) a long time ago.

If not, you would seriously be an idiot to consider any Focus.

By the same token one could argue that you would seriously be an idiot to buy a Mustang GT with the (MT82) manual transmission.
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You would think that Ford knows about the problem with the seal and replaced it (with a better one) a long time ago.

If not, you would seriously be an idiot to consider any Focus.

By the same token one could argue that you would seriously be an idiot to buy a Mustang GT with the (MT82) manual transmission.
Something wrong with the manual in a mustang?
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Something wrong with the manual in a mustang?
Apparently MT82s were breaking like crazy.

BUT the investigations went nowhere because the very same transmission was also sitting in the Boss 302 and people were not complaining about that.
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Apparently MT82s were breaking like crazy.

BUT the investigations went nowhere because the very same transmission was also sitting in the Boss 302 and people were not complaining about that.
They were made in China for 1-2 years, Ford has since switched manufacturing to Germany (where all the other transmissions are made).
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Something wrong with the manual in a mustang?
Google 'MT82' and you can get a good idea. This was a big issue.

Because many people were having problems with their 2011 Mustang GT (with the MT82 6 speed manual), does that mean that you should never buy a Mustang with a MT82? I hope not.

My point was that it would be incredibly stupid on the part of Ford not to recognize and correct recurring mechanical issues (as this cost them big $$$ in warranty repairs not to mention the damage to their reputation).

We know that a leaking seal was the cause of many of the issues with the DCT. Has Ford improved that part from the earlier production cars? Of course they have.
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Google 'MT82' and you can get a good idea. This was a big issue.

Because many people were having problems with their 2011 Mustang GT (with the MT82 6 speed manual), does that mean that you should never buy a Mustang with a MT82? I hope not.

My point was that it would be incredibly stupid on the part of Ford not to recognize and correct recurring mechanical issues (as this cost them big $$$ in warranty repairs not to mention the damage to their reputation).

We know that a leaking seal was the cause of many of the issues with the DCT. Has Ford improved that part from the earlier production cars? Of course they have.
I wouldn't get an auto mustang even if.. (please Ford don't screw up the new mustang)....
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