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Old 02-09-2013, 06:43 PM   #1
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Just picked up a new 13 hatch - what is everyone doing to up the mpg?

Im looking do intake, plugs and wires for just now but whe is everyone upgrading or using?


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Old 02-09-2013, 06:55 PM   #2
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Just picked up a new 13 hatch - what is everyone doing to up the mpg?

Im looking do intake, plugs and wires for just now but whe is everyone upgrading or using?


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The car uses coil over plug coil packs, it doesn't have ht leads in the same manner as the older cars.

As to intake and exhaust modifications the Steeda and FSWerks combination seems to be popular, but you really need to search as most of these things have been discussed before.
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:57 PM   #3
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I put in a drop-in K&N filter and saw a 1-2 mpg increase.
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The car uses coil over plug coil packs, it doesn't have ht leads in the same manner as the older cars.

As to intake and exhaust modifications the Steeda and FSWerks combination seems to be popular, but you really need to search as most of these things have been discussed before.
Good to know - thanks man, noob to this car hah

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I put in a drop-in K&N filter and saw a 1-2 mpg increase.
Had the drop in on my last car (zx2) looking on FSwerks like the foam ITG one - might give that a try. Whats this res and snorkel delete that I keep seeing?
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Old 02-10-2013, 02:08 AM   #5
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I love good gas mileage and think the Focus does an excellent job of maximizing fuel economy with this car. They use some pretty neat technologies such as grill shutters, ADFSO (Active Deceleration Fuel Shut Off), electric power steering, "smart battery management", various engine mods, lots of aerodynamic treatment, low friction lubes and oils, low rolling resistance tires, etc. The best thing you can do to reach that potential is improve your driving style. To that end, they even provide optimal shift indicators and performance monitors you can take advantage of.

Other than driving style, keeping your tires properly aired and filters clean, there isn't much you can do in the way of improvement IMO.

If you read up about the snorkel removal, you'll find some seemed to improve performance in conjunction with other mods. Others reported a decrease in mileage. Maybe there was a reason Ford put it there in the first place?

As for the K&N, I used to be a fan, found it sounded cool but didn't really improve mileage any more than installing a clean filter. True, K&Ns admit more air, but since A/F ratio is closely governed and the stock filter operates nowhere near max air flow, the extra air is superfluous. You do get extra dirt in your engine though, dirtier oil and shorter engine life, if you're not planning on keeping the car for a long time, no-one will probably notice. Another (different forum) member who lives in AZ calls them "silica injectors"

In reality, filters are there to keep engines clean and minimize wear. It's hard to beat paper filters as this report indicates:
http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/kn-vs-oem-filter.html
Other comparisons you can find on the internet show similar results.

If it were otherwise, wouldn't you think Ford (and others) would use them rather than spending hundreds per car on MPG upgrades?

Congratulations on your new car! You'll find lots of other great ideas to customize your car with on the forum!
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You gotta look at it from a cost stand point to. Intake and exhaust may get you maybe 1 mpg more. but the cost for that extra mpg is rediculous. What you could do is replace your tires with Lrr tires when the time comes, switch to 0w-20 motor oil, etc. I dont have the new focus but I have a fiesta. So I do plan on switching to better tires when the time comes.
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You gotta look at it from a cost stand point to. Intake and exhaust may get you maybe 1 mpg more. but the cost for that extra mpg is rediculous. What you could do is replace your tires with Lrr tires when the time comes, switch to 0w-20 motor oil, etc. I dont have the new focus but I have a fiesta. So I do plan on switching to better tires when the time comes.
Is it wise to switch to a lighter oil? Wouldn't ford suggest it if it was safe to run it? The new mazda 3's run it so i am sure if ford thought it was safe they'd run it too. The new mazda3's run the engine on high idle for a bit when you first start it, maybe it has to do with the grade of oil.
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Is it wise to switch to a lighter oil? Wouldn't ford suggest it if it was safe to run it? The new mazda 3's run it so i am sure if ford thought it was safe they'd run it too. The new mazda3's run the engine on high idle for a bit when you first start it, maybe it has to do with the grade of oil.
0W-20 is not less viscous than 5W-20 at engine operating temperatures.

The difference is 0W-20 thickens less as it cools in comparison to 5W-20. This plays an advantage in cooler/cold climates, with a minimal to nil advantage in warmer/hot climates.

The disadvantage of wider viscosity spreads are higher NOACK Volatility and more prone to shearing.
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Technically the car already comes with an under tray for aero and NVH purposes but the aero is slightly hurt by the fact that its a scrim covered insulator wrapped around plastic hard board vs a sheet of aluminum.

I think I would like the aluminum one as it should theoretically hold up better in the long run as far as from an aero perspective.
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0W-20 is not less viscous than 5W-20 at engine operating temperatures.

The difference is 0W-20 thickens less as it cools in comparison to 5W-20. This plays an advantage in cooler/cold climates, with a minimal to nil advantage in warmer/hot climates.

The disadvantage of wider viscosity spreads are higher NOACK Volatility and more prone to shearing.
Will not be messing with oil thickness
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You gotta look at it from a cost stand point to. Intake and exhaust may get you maybe 1 mpg more. but the cost for that extra mpg is rediculous. What you could do is replace your tires with Lrr tires when the time comes, switch to 0w-20 motor oil, etc. I dont have the new focus but I have a fiesta. So I do plan on switching to better tires when the time comes.
That was the main car I wanted to get but, my dealer didnt have what I wanted and was like hmm might as well test drive the focus when I was still there, sure as I liked that more/came home with it - drove better, more space, ect. Just all around more car for the $

Def doing the lightweight wheels and LLR tires when the all seasons wear out then replace them with snows.

Not sure about the oil but I will be adding a new drop in filter for now.
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