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Old 02-01-2013, 04:46 PM   #1
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ESP and Pricing

Sitting at 32k miles right now and considering ESP. Haven't had any major issues, but you never know...

Ford ESP Website:

5yr/100k Premium is $1895 with $50 deductible

Ford Dealer:

5yr/100k Premium is $1530 with $50 deductible

Good price?

Is ESP worth it?


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Sitting at 32k miles right now and considering ESP. Haven't had any major issues, but you never know...

Ford ESP Website:

5yr/100k Premium is $1895 with $50 deductible

Ford Dealer:

5yr/100k Premium is $1530 with $50 deductible

Good price?

Is ESP worth it?
Check zeigler, or anderson koch ford warranty sites for the lowest price for the service contract.

Although that assumes you'll see the value in it. I have one, but I'm not 100% convinced that it will be worth it in end if they don't actually fix anything like they've wormed out of doing anything so far other than the badge.
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Old 02-01-2013, 05:21 PM   #3
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Check zeigler, or anderson koch ford warranty sites for the lowest price for the service contract.

Although that assumes you'll see the value in it. I have one, but I'm not 100% convinced that it will be worth it in end if they don't actually fix anything like they've wormed out of doing anything so far other than the badge.
What did you have done with your badge?
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Check zeigler, or anderson koch ford warranty sites for the lowest price for the service contract.

Although that assumes you'll see the value in it. I have one, but I'm not 100% convinced that it will be worth it in end if they don't actually fix anything like they've wormed out of doing anything so far other than the badge.
Also check:

www.floodfordesp.com/

Lowest prices that I've found.
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Also check:

www.floodfordesp.com/

Lowest prices that I've found.
Flood was slightly higher when I looked, and anderson koch was the lowest, but its all slightly fungible based on deductibles, rental coverage, etc. It all comes down to personal preference in the end if its close enough to not matter.

Zeigler was way high though last I checked, but others swear by them so its up to the op to decide where and what they want to buy.

It all goes into ford and would show up in oasis anyway once its active.
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:32 PM   #6
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It is supposed to be, you can read this reply from Customer Service - it is the 3rd post down.
http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/s....php?p=4395563

I just checked the ESP website http://owner.ford.com/servlet/Conten...ESPWizardStep1 ( 3 months later) and it is still not listed in the description of what the plan covers.
It may be in the service plan document provided when you actually buy one.
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The long answer is maybe. The FCS reps on here claim it is, but I'm not sure if they are only referring to the internals like the gears and shafts as those are always covered, or if it also extends to the clutch which is an external transmission part, but is analagous to a torque converter which is covered, vs the manual transmission clutch disk, in terms of the driver not being able to directly actuate it and cause excess wear.

Technically it is a wear component like a manual clutch disk, as it is essentially a pair of friction disks with pressure plates between them, etc... However the driver cannot manually slip the clutch excessively, so if the programming is causing harm to it (if and only if) that would be the only way it could be damaged ahead of time.

A well shifted manual shouldn't need a clutch in 100-125k either though.
I purchased the 5yr/75k mile PremiumCare ESP when I bought the car so it's nice to know that the most worrisome part is covered beyond the factory warranty.

The car is coming up on 15k miles and it hasn't had major problems yet. Just the occasional DCT lag when I want it to go. The service department at Landmark Ford has been exceptional at taking care of the minor issues.
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I purchased the 5yr/75k mile PremiumCare ESP when I bought the car so it's nice to know that the most worrisome part is covered beyond the factory warranty.

The car is coming up on 15k miles and it hasn't had major problems yet. Just the occasional DCT lag when I want it to go. The service department at Landmark Ford has been exceptional at taking care of the minor issues.
With the 5/75k mile premium care ESP that means the car is covered for just 15,000 additional miles and zero more years on the power train which already has a 5 year 60,000 mile warranty, and 2 years and 39,000 miles on the other covered components under the 3 year 36k factory bumper to bumper warranty.

If you were concerned about not racking up sufficient miles but needed more time a 7 year policy may have been better even at the same mileage as that would buy you more time. However the more time and or miles covered the greater the cost of the service plan.

Just a thought as the ESP starts from the date the car was sold even though it may have been purchased at a later date, so in 5 years from the date of sale it would be coming up on the end of the power train warranty at that point.
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if you're going to do it, don't wait until you get past 36k otherwise that's an extra $100
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Sitting at 32k miles right now and considering ESP. Haven't had any major issues, but you never know...

Ford ESP Website:

5yr/100k Premium is $1895 with $50 deductible

Ford Dealer:

5yr/100k Premium is $1530 with $50 deductible

Good price?

Is ESP worth it?
Is the DCT covered?
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What did you have done with your badge?
The original Focus badge the car was built with wasn't attached properly and was peeling off, so within the First 1000 miles I had to go to the dealer two or three times (well technically only twice, once for them to see it and once to replace the badge when the new one came in.

While others debadge, I wanted to keep the stock appearance at that time.

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Is the DCT covered?
The long answer is maybe. The FCS reps on here claim it is, but I'm not sure if they are only referring to the internals like the gears and shafts as those are always covered, or if it also extends to the clutch which is an external transmission part, but is analagous to a torque converter which is covered, vs the manual transmission clutch disk, in terms of the driver not being able to directly actuate it and cause excess wear.

Technically it is a wear component like a manual clutch disk, as it is essentially a pair of friction disks with pressure plates between them, etc... However the driver cannot manually slip the clutch excessively, so if the programming is causing harm to it (if and only if) that would be the only way it could be damaged ahead of time.

A well shifted manual shouldn't need a clutch in 100-125k either though.
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