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Old 01-22-2013, 09:13 AM   #1
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To all the Ti to ST converters...

I am curious to know what made you make the switch from a Ti to an St. I know some things are obvious...the ecoboost engine perhaps and the 6MT. However, other than those two things (and maybe the Recaro seats), I can't think of any other reason why one would make the switch. In my case, I purchased a 5MT Ti hatch about four months ago for 21.5K. Are the engine, 6MT and recaro seats that much better? I guess if I had paid 27 - 28 K for my car, I think I would be thinking differently. By the way, my car is not a base Ti: It has the upgraded suspension and tires (18" summer tires, stiffer suspension), and the premium package (leather seats, power driver seats). It does not have navigation or the winter package (I am in Florida so but wup about that).

I've never owned a sports car so maybe I just don't know what it means to drive a hot hatch.

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Old 01-22-2013, 09:19 AM   #2
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160 hp vs. 252 hp need I say more.
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The ecoboost engine is definitely a strong selling point.
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160 hp vs. 252 hp need I say more.
Pretty much. I wouldn't get the recaros though. I sat in a ST2 and it was like blocks of wood digging into my shoulder blades. After a min of sitting in it I didn't even want to drive it. My back is way too wide to be comfortable in it past the 5 min ride to work.
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Pretty much. I wouldn't get the recaros though. I sat in a ST2 and it was like blocks of wood digging into my shoulder blades. After a min of sitting in it I didn't even want to drive it. My back is way too wide to be comfortable in it past the 5 min ride to work.
I have to 2nd this comment. I cannot understand how people sit in those seats. I have wide shoulders and I couldn't even sit all the way back. It was completely and utterly the most uncomfortable seat I've ever sat in.

Even without the seats though, with as much as I drive my car, I'll never have any type of sports car as my dally driver. I didn't even like having my GTI as my DD when I had it. Not economical at all, stiff suspension, expensive gas, etc.

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I have to 2nd this comment. I cannot understand how people sit in those seats.
We kept our Ti, as we were originally looking for a new car for my wife to replace her Expedition. We were going to buy a CMAX. However, when I took the Ti in for a "free" oil change offer from Ford, I test drove the ST and I realized how much I missed my Mustang I sold last year. I bought the ST2 which was also thousands cheaper than the CMAX (reasoning to wife), I'm loving the power and 6spd, and now with the Cobb tune even more. I do miss the auto dim mirror, back up sensors, ambient lighting, homelink visor and heated seats the Ti has.

The Seats were def a concern, I'm 6'1 220, they have either loosened up some or I have just got used to them but they are not a deal breaker. I do think they should have made the sides adjustable and the car would appeal to a wider demographic.
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We kept our Ti, as we were originally looking for a new car for my wife to replace her Expedition. We were going to buy a CMAX. However, when I took the Ti in for a "free" oil change offer from Ford, I test drove the ST and I realized how much I missed my Mustang I sold last year. I bought the ST2 which was also thousands cheaper than the CMAX (reasoning to wife), I'm loving the power and 6spd, and now with the Cobb tune even more. I do miss the auto dim mirror, back up sensors, ambient lighting, homelink visor and heated seats the Ti has.

The Seats were def a concern, I'm 6'1 220, they have either loosened up some or I have just got used to them but they are not a deal breaker. I do think they should have made the sides adjustable and the car would appeal to a wider demographic.
Adjustable seats and an automatic tranny. Driving a manual for me is a no go. I've done it a few times in rush hour, but won't do it again. After playing soccer and baseball all year round for 20 years my knees have already about had it.
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We kept our Ti, as we were originally looking for a new car for my wife to replace her Expedition. We were going to buy a CMAX. However, when I took the Ti in for a "free" oil change offer from Ford, I test drove the ST and I realized how much I missed my Mustang I sold last year. I bought the ST2 which was also thousands cheaper than the CMAX (reasoning to wife), I'm loving the power and 6spd, and now with the Cobb tune even more. I do miss the auto dim mirror, back up sensors, ambient lighting, homelink visor and heated seats the Ti has.

The Seats were def a concern, I'm 6'1 220, they have either loosened up some or I have just got used to them but they are not a deal breaker. I do think they should have made the sides adjustable and the car would appeal to a wider demographic.
I was seriously considering the Cobb tune to mine too. What are your thoughts on that?
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160 hp vs. 252 hp need I say more.
Perhaps you should considering that the extra HP would not be used 99+% of the time.

Plenty of cars have > 252HP but I don't think that most Focus owners are considering them.
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Perhaps you should considering that the extra HP would not be used 99+% of the time.
Actually just general accleration is increased alot and the tourque curve has changed under boost. Like I said it's personality and you don't seem to fit the ST's target buyer if you think like that. It's also more than HP since there's handling and braking to be considered.

I personally am a bit demanding of my rides more than the average driver and I've already pushed my SE to it's limits and there's some some suspension issues that need to be worked out but otherwise the standard Focus is enough of a performer for the general buyer and doesn't desire much more than it's stock capabilities.
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