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Old 11-28-2012, 09:46 PM   #1
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Apple implemented non-standard MAP with iOS6

Per SMR, testing shows that iOS6 has a non-standard implementation of MAP, therefore texts won't work in a robust manner with MFT. Ford is trying to work with Apple.


http://www.nsapp.fordtechservice.dea...N_iop_2_00.pdf


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Old 11-29-2012, 05:43 AM   #2
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You're not really surprised are you? Everything Apple does is non standard. Look at their cables. I'm surprised they don't have their own special usb ports.
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:11 AM   #3
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I was at a wifi seminar for work yesterday and the bluetooth app engineer for Microchip was telling us that Crapple has started to implement Bluetooth in a non-standard way, which of course is going to force a bunch of developers to comply and pay the "Apple Tax" just to be able to sell accessories. I understand they want to be "ground-breaking" all the time, but undermining standards constantly because you can and you're big enough to do it sucks. That is costing $$$ everywhere for everyone. The Bluetooth SIG should stop bending over and pull their qualification.
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You're not really surprised are you? Everything Apple does is non standard. Look at their cables. I'm surprised they don't have their own special usb ports.
You mean like in 1998 when they introduced the iMac and it had USB ports only instead of DB9 or DB25 or other serial ports? And everyone screamed bloody murder because nobody was using USB ports and no peripherals supported them. And now...
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You mean like in 1998 when they introduced the iMac and it had USB ports only instead of DB9 or DB25 or other serial ports? And everyone screamed bloody murder because nobody was using USB ports and no peripherals supported them. And now...
Agreed, they are on the front edge of a lot of good things. They just need to work on backward capatibility a bit more until everyone else catches up or standardizes.
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You mean like in 1998 when they introduced the iMac and it had USB ports only instead of DB9 or DB25 or other serial ports? And everyone screamed bloody murder because nobody was using USB ports and no peripherals supported them. And now...
Totally different situation. This is not adopting a new technology.

They are now using their power to pervert an open standard, one that was designed to be open and free to further innovation and competition, to force developers and manufacturers to pay to use that open standard on products that Apple develops.

That is fine in and of itself. But they should not be allowed to use the Bluetooth logo and they should not be able to call themselves or their products compliant to the standard.
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Totally different situation. This is not adopting a new technology.

They are now using their power to pervert an open standard, one that was designed to be open and free to further innovation and competition, to force developers and manufacturers to pay to use that open standard on products that Apple develops.

That is fine in and of itself. But they should not be allowed to use the Bluetooth logo and they should not be able to call themselves or their products compliant to the standard.
I see your points. I was railing against the binary wars mentality (Apple vs PC, Democrats vs Republicans) that people (society, nobody here in particular) are playing into and dumbing down our society. Each side of a coin has something to offer... moreover, there aren't only two sides to a coin, but I guess thinking that there are makes it easier for consumption and discussion.

I looked up the MAP specification and found it interesting that Apple was not a contributor but other phone manufacturers were. Not that it makes it okay to deviate and use the name, but it is interesting nonetheless.

More interesting would be to know how it is "non-standard"... did they use a different set of XML tags in the bmessage or what? With MFT 3.51 we can now get text notifications, but can't send, so sounds close....
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More interesting would be to know how it is "non-standard"... did they use a different set of XML tags in the bmessage or what? With MFT 3.51 we can now get text notifications, but can't send, so sounds close....
I have never been able to get text notifications using an Apple product on MFT. I have an iPhone 4S 6.0.1 and I've had MFT 3.0.2 and now 3.5.1. I wonder why some people report having any sort of text notifications because I just get the screen that says your phone is not compatible.
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But they should not be allowed to use the Bluetooth logo and they should not be able to call themselves or their products compliant to the standard.
They are fully compliant with the Appletooth standard.
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You mean like in 1998 when they introduced the iMac and it had USB ports only instead of DB9 or DB25 or other serial ports? And everyone screamed bloody murder because nobody was using USB ports and no peripherals supported them. And now...
Was Apple the first to implement USB?

According to Wikipedia:

"A group of seven companies began the development of USB in 1994: Compaq, DEC, IBM, Intel, Microsoft, NEC and Nortel."
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