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Old 11-14-2012, 03:31 PM   #1
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What should I do now?

Hey all,

Bought my 2003 SVT last year with 55,000 miles now has 70,000. In May, I was preparing for inspection and discovered that the check engine bulb was pulled and that I had four codes.

I replaced the front O2 Sensor which resolved two of the codes.

The remaining codes were P1383 codes for advanced timing. To attempt to fix this I replaced the timing belt and timed the engine based on the Ford Instructions. Still got the codes.

I again retimed this both times using the timing tool and still had the code come back. After researching on the forums I found that we had timed it right and that this is a normal problem.

So I sucked it up and went to Winner Ford to have it fixed along with a few other minor tweaks. After two weeks to get the parts in they completed the repairs, test drove it, but the code remained. After this they ordered replacements for the phaser and vct solenoid which took another week to complete.

Still code remained. They once again attempted to retime it and run through another diagnostic check. They returned no clear response. They then stopped billing me for time spent and were in contact with Ford engineers and supposedly the SVT team. They tried a bunch of different things and 4 weeks later still no results.

They came to me and said that the next step was to replace the cam shafts with high performance ones since they could not get new stock. I decided to say screw them and bought the car back from them.

So now I have a car in my driveway that is 5 months past inspection and have purchased a replacement car. I recently tried a test that was on here to retune based on the code. Still without a change.

The only thing I was thinking was to retard the timing and hope to trick the computer.

Anyone have any other suggestions?


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Old 11-14-2012, 09:48 PM   #2
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Live in a state that doesn't have inspections, JK thou how does the car run? Maybe think about a tune
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Old 11-15-2012, 09:35 AM   #3
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Live in a state that doesn't have inspections, JK thou how does the car run? Maybe think about a tune
Yeah my cousin is in Arkansas and he may buy it if I cant get it fixed.

Car bogs down on hard acceleration but once above 3000 rpms its smooth and fast.

That being said I have only driven it in this state so I have no reference to how a properly working SVT runs.
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That is a tough code to take out, and yes if the timing is incorrect it does throw it off.

When I had it before, I had to do it over and over until we got the tension on the Timing belt correctly, the oil in the VCT was flowing somewhat right and the sensor for the VCT was good to go.

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That is a tough code to take out, and yes if the timing is incorrect it does throw it off.

When I had it before, I had to do it over and over until we got the tension on the Timing belt correctly, the oil in the VCT was flowing somewhat right and the sensor for the VCT was good to go.

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I know the timing is spot on by using the timing tool with the pin.

What do you mean by tension in the timing belt?
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I know the timing is spot on by using the timing tool with the pin.

What do you mean by tension in the timing belt?
Try timing it with out using the Pin. there are marks on the hermonic ballencer and block, also find top dead center the old school way.
it has worked for me on more then one ocation.
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Why can't you clear the CEL and go through inspection?
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Why can't you clear the CEL and go through inspection?
I have tried that but when you clear the code it resets all of the other electronic systems, O2 Sensors and all.
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Yup we've had many troubles with that code. What worked for us is we kept re timing and re timing. I've even move the VCT gear a tooth or two back and forth till it liked where it was at. No more code. It all as to do with the position of the variable cam gear. It can be cleared, but what surprises me is that the dealer ship couldn't get it. Make me think they didn't try that hard?
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Yup we've had many troubles with that code. What worked for us is we kept re timing and re timing. I've even move the VCT gear a tooth or two back and forth till it liked where it was at. No more code. It all as to do with the position of the variable cam gear. It can be cleared, but what surprises me is that the dealer ship couldn't get it. Make me think they didn't try that hard?
I have tried it a few times and I know that the timing is spot on.

As far as moving the VCT a tooth how do you do that?

I have released the oil from the VCT by moving the cam.

Do you need to loosen the timing belt and rotate the VCT gear that way?

Oh and I dont trust the dealership for crap they are a bunch of s and I will never be taking it back to them.

Luckily I have another dealership just as close.
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