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Old 09-05-2012, 03:12 PM   #1
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Anyone else bump down from an ST3 to an ST2?

I had been thinking about it for a while and finally pulled the plug last week. Had a TS ST3 (no moonroof) on order and after some thinking decided that if I was going to bump down, I'd get a PB ST2. Which is exactly what I did, much to my original dealer's chagrin, so if you are interested in picking up an ST3, let me know and I can pass information on to you. Sad I lost the camera, but I view it as a nice bonus; so no bonus - I'm still at baseline instead of in the negative.

My original reasoning behind wanting an ST3 were the heated seats. Was really bummed about the partial leather Recaros not being heated even though I like the bi-color look a lot more (and I don't like leather period). I figured that I could live without the other options and save myself a couple of grand in the process. Plus, a couple of extra months of breaking 'er in without the possibility of snow. Some 300+ miles later I'm very happy I made that choice.


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Old 09-06-2012, 07:03 AM   #2
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I did the same I had an ST3 on order with a sunroof. The dealer that I had originally ordered form received the same color st2 with nave and sunroof. So I went and looked the car over last Friday and though about it for a few hours. I took the money I saved from the st3 package and put it towards the extended warranty.
I wanted the HID’s and the leather but like you I also like the non leather seats they will hold my butt in a little better when I take in the track.

Over all I’m still very happy with the decision to take the st2, the navigation system was on of the major factors for me picking the st3 in the first place.
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I did the same I had an ST3 on order with a sunroof. The dealer that I had originally ordered form received the same color st2 with nave and sunroof. So I went and looked the car over last Friday and though about it for a few hours. I took the money I saved from the st3 package and put it towards the extended warranty.
I wanted the HIDís and the leather but like you I also like the non leather seats they will hold my butt in a little better when I take in the track.

Over all Iím still very happy with the decision to take the st2, the navigation system was on of the major factors for me picking the st3 in the first place.
Yeah, I've been really happy with the nav. The only frustration I've experienced with MFT so far is that Bluetooth sometimes works in a weird way with my iPhone - about half the times it won't let me control the songs with steering wheel buttons and the display will freeze on one track while another one is playing. Hopefully there's a fix for that in the future.
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Yeah, I've been really happy with the nav. The only frustration I've experienced with MFT so far is that Bluetooth sometimes works in a weird way with my iPhone - about half the times it won't let me control the songs with steering wheel buttons and the display will freeze on one track while another one is playing. Hopefully there's a fix for that in the future.
I havenít gotten my Girl friend to set that up for me being that I'm Technologically challenged.
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I havenít gotten my Girl friend to set that up for me being that I'm Technologically challenged.
I haven't really had a chance to play with it all that much. Have been using the voice nav function on and off (it doesn't always seem to recognize street names) and the bluetooth audio command (that one works better with voice).
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I had been thinking about it for a while and finally pulled the plug last week. Had a TS ST3 (no moonroof) on order and after some thinking decided that if I was going to bump down, I'd get a PB ST2. Which is exactly what I did, much to my original dealer's chagrin, so if you are interested in picking up an ST3, let me know and I can pass information on to you. Sad I lost the camera, but I view it as a nice bonus; so no bonus - I'm still at baseline instead of in the negative.

My original reasoning behind wanting an ST3 were the heated seats. Was really bummed about the partial leather Recaros not being heated even though I like the bi-color look a lot more (and I don't like leather period). I figured that I could live without the other options and save myself a couple of grand in the process. Plus, a couple of extra months of breaking 'er in without the possibility of snow. Some 300+ miles later I'm very happy I made that choice.
Kinda of a bummer you did that to your original dealer- It wasn't their fault that the car is late.
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Kinda of a bummer you did that to your original dealer- It wasn't their fault that the car is late.
I agree and I disagree. No, it definitely is not their fault. Yes, they spent considerable time with me over the summer working out the details of the order and yes, they expected a sale out of me. Don't think the appreciation for their involvement is lost on me. But when I e-mailed back asking how long it would take if I switched my order to the ST2, I didn't get a definitive answer. They then did get an ST2, but not the one I would have wanted (different color/package). So I searched in the area and found the one dealer that did.

What would you have me do instead? Bottom line, between the time I discovered my ST2 on the second dealer's lot and the time I went and picked it up (5 days), my first dealer could have done absolutely nothing to get me in an ST. So even calling him ahead of time to cancel (which I didn't want to do on the off chance I couldn't get financing in time and someone else would have bought the ST2 but I would no longer have the original ST3 order anymore) wasn't really an option. The car I wanted was sitting on the lot, ready to be purchased. How much do I owe it to the original guy to keep waiting (whether for the ST3 or for a replacement ST2) in that circumstance? I actually wanted to send him a bottle of wine or something, but thinking about it more and more, the way he chewed me out on the phone when I called to cancel, was more than enough satisfaction for him, as far as I am concerned. And, actually, my car was in the exact same situation - someone ordered it, then changed his mind. It's not like the original dealer should have much of a problem selling the ST3 once it gets there (assuming he's unable to get it deleted from the order bank), considering the attention the car has gotten.

Plus, I lost a couple of free oil changes (well, one - the other dealer offered me my first one free as well) and the GoPro. So as far as I am concerned, we each came out having lost something out of this situation. This is one of those where either way it turned out on the extremes (on one end me having to wait for an extra couple of months and possibly losing the advantageous % APR through my credit union that may not be available later but making the dealer happy and on the other precisely what ended up happening) would make someone unhappy without a good middle ground (unless you can come up with something that I haven't thought of).
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Your dealer is supposed to Sync your phone before you drive away... Fail
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I didnít ask them to so not really there fault, the dealer I bought from was fantastic. My sales men was off Saturday so Friday night he and I talked over the phone Saturday when I got there the car was all cleaned and one of the managers was waiting. All the paper work was ready and in less than 30 min we were done he spent another 30min going over all the features of the car.
Even though I didnít buy the car I ordered I dealt with the same people start to finish and next car I buy as long as itís a ford thatís where I will get it.

And I set the phone up yesterday it was super simple and the hands free works really well and is super clear on both ends.
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I didnít ask them to so not really there fault, the dealer I bought from was fantastic. My sales men was off Saturday so Friday night he and I talked over the phone Saturday when I got there the car was all cleaned and one of the managers was waiting. All the paper work was ready and in less than 30 min we were done he spent another 30min going over all the features of the car.
Even though I didnít buy the car I ordered I dealt with the same people start to finish and next car I buy as long as itís a ford thatís where I will get it.

And I set the phone up yesterday it was super simple and the hands free works really well and is super clear on both ends.
Yeah, mine asked whether or not I needed help and I was too excited to actually finally be able to DRIVE it that I didn't want the Sync instructions (the salesman told me I had Nav active but it turned out they forgot to install the SD card!) or notice that the interior was a bit smudgy (some people coming and in out of it, I suppose). I'll have them Armor-All it or something when I stop by for my first oil change in 600 miles or so.
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