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Old 07-15-2012, 04:07 PM   #1
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Thumbs up 2012 Focus vs Mazda 3 comparison

My wife just got a new Mazda 3 hatch with the Skyactive engine and auto transmission. I just drove it. Here is how it compares to mine (remember they have the same chassis with evolutionary differences between them):

Engine/power: Smoother at idle than the Focus and very quiet, but very noisy on start up. Power is good, but not as powerful as the Focus. Probably closer to its actual rating where the Focus is underrated.

Transmission: Despite Mazda claiming a sporty feel, it is not as crisp and quick as the DCT, but is smooth. Goes into too high of a gear in town, but usually picks the perfect gear on the open road. DCT=quick and sporty, Skyactiv auto=smooth and non-sporty.

Interior: Roomy, but materials quality and design is not as inviting as the Focus. Instrumentation is lacking. Stereo good and no door rattling from the speakers. A lot more road and wind noise than the Focus. The Mazda lacks the rear inner fender felt, etc. and seems to have less interior insulation to save weight.

Exterior: IMHO, and my wife's, it is not as sharp as the Focus. Fit and finish good and projector lights work great.

Handling: VERY STIFF ride even with its 16" tires. Stiffer than my SEL premium with 2010+ MS3 springs and 17" tires. It must have very stiffly valved dampers.
Body roll is minimal with some under steer. I would rate it between my SEL when stock, and now with the Steeda rear sway bar and MS3 springs.

Fuel mileage: I see no advantage over the Focus yet.



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Old 07-15-2012, 04:13 PM   #2
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Nice comparison! My girlfriend is debating between these two cars and I am more attached to the focus but she seems to be leaning more towards the Mazda. Give me more reasons for her to choose the focus =)!
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Nice comparison! My girlfriend is debating between these two cars and I am more attached to the focus but she seems to be leaning more towards the Mazda. Give me more reasons for her to choose the focus =)!
Better materials, quality, power, comfort.
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Interior: Roomy, but materials quality and design is not as inviting as the Focus. Instrumentation is lacking.

A lot more road and wind noise than the Focus.

Handling: VERY STIFF ride even with its 16" tires?
Thanks for the comparo. These three observations would probably force me back into a Focus if I had to (god-forbid) replace my current one.

Screw those d*cks at whatever rag that was that placed the Focus in 5th and the Mazda3 in first based primarily on the fact that the Focus they were provided with did not happen to have cruise control.
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Old 07-15-2012, 04:24 PM   #5
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Screw those d*cks at whatever rag that was that placed the Focus in 5th and the Mazda3 in first based primarily on the fact that the Focus they were provided with did not happen to have cruise control.
Oh I want to see this...
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I agree with the interior treatment and most definitely the noise level! I traded in a 2010 Mazda 3 Sport (6 speed manual with many options). I know the 2012 with Skyactive is a slightly different car, but, the chassis and interiors/exteriors are almost identical. I have never driven a noisier car on the highway than my Mazda.... they really "cheaped" out to save weight (and money) on insulation, basically, there isn't any under the carpets or behind any panels to speak of.... it was really bad on concrete highways... other than that, the car drove really nice and had outstanding handling (even better than my older VW GLI with Bilstien dampers), and in the 2 years I owned it, not a single issue (or clunk or rattle), only the AC compressor clutch was replaced under a TSB....

I think in a "perfect world", I would take my Focus interior (even the MFT, I actually like mine) and Focus motor (with the Mazda 6 speed manual....the Mazda 2.5 absolutely "drank" gas.....uggh) and put it into a Mazda 3 Sport (Hatchback) body..... that would be a desirable car, IMHO.
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Old 07-15-2012, 06:59 PM   #7
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I agree with the interior treatment and most definitely the noise level! I traded in a 2010 Mazda 3 Sport (6 speed manual with many options). I know the 2012 with Skyactive is a slightly different car, but, the chassis and interiors/exteriors are almost identical. I have never driven a noisier car on the highway than my Mazda.... they really "cheaped" out to save weight (and money) on insulation, basically, there isn't any under the carpets or behind any panels to speak of.... it was really bad on concrete highways... other than that, the car drove really nice and had outstanding handling (even better than my older VW GLI with Bilstien dampers), and in the 2 years I owned it, not a single issue (or clunk or rattle), only the AC compressor clutch was replaced under a TSB....

I think in a "perfect world", I would take my Focus interior (even the MFT, I actually like mine) and Focus motor (with the Mazda 6 speed manual....the Mazda 2.5 absolutely "drank" gas.....uggh) and put it into a Mazda 3 Sport (Hatchback) body..... that would be a desirable car, IMHO.
Yea, my wife's old 2006 MZ3 and my 2008 MS3 were much quieter and better quality. I even drove a fully optioned 2010 MS3 and it was quieter and even rode better.

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After my Audi broke, I test drove a few cars with the '08 Mazda 3 being the winner. I got the tiptronic auto and it was a blast to drive at first and I thought I was in love that that car's handling. A year later, that love kind of trickled and I was left with asking myself why I actually settled on the 3. Long story short, last Christmas, I had a flat tire and my mom let me drive her Focus to my fiance's family get-together. That was the first time that I'd actually said I have to get one of these! It felt fantastic, looked fantastic, was very inviting, and didn't feeling like I was going to break something if I touched it. So, now I'm stuck with these rules:

1. I will only own an Audi if it's under warranty.

2. I will only own a non-Ford if it's Honda or Toyota and a 2-seater.
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Thanks for the comparo. These three observations would probably force me back into a Focus if I had to (god-forbid) replace my current one.

Screw those d*cks at whatever rag that was that placed the Focus in 5th and the Mazda3 in first based primarily on the fact that the Focus they were provided with did not happen to have cruise control.
You wouldn't happen to be referring to motor trend's 40 mpg comparison by any chance?

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...n/viewall.html

They were the jokers who ranked the Focus (5/6) worse than all but the Elantra despite the fact that it was the most consistant no matter who drove it in terms of fuel efficiency, even without the cruise control. But the very similar Mazda 3 SkyActiv with its slightly different bore and stroke was ranked #1. They went on to praise the Direct injection and 12:1 compression in the Mazda but made no mention of this in the Ford, despite the Focus having this technology before the Mazda 3.
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I'd stick with the focus. I have personal experience with women thinking they like the mazda's firm ride, but then ending up selling the car a year later because the "ride quality is horrible".
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