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Old 05-06-2011, 07:12 PM   #1
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2012 Focus Sport Package - Changes?

Thinking of replacing my 540i M-Sport with something I don't have to mess with every few weeks to keep on the road, so I went and looked at the 2012 Focus today. Usual story, sales guy was clueless, and couldn't answer any of my questions with any confidence nor let me drive a car I actually wanted (SE 5 door with sport package).

I drove an SE auto without the sport package, and the car was honestly too soft for me. It was comfortable and everything, but I could feel myself getting bored with it on the test drive. It felt like it had more body roll than my fiance's '06 Escape, not exactly what I'm looking for. The steering feel was also a little bit too light for me. I know it won't be anywhere near as heavy as my 540i (which has notoriously heavy steering with great feel for a recirculating ball box), but it was one oiled up finger on the steering wheel light with almost zero feedback.

I was under the impression that the sport package actually had some different suspension tuning, but the sales guy was adamant that it is just an appearance package with a leather steering wheel, 16" aluminum wheels, different seats design etc. He said multiple times that the suspension was the same sport package or not.

So any definitive info on if the suspension/steering assist is the exact same between a sport package SE 5 door car and one without the sport package?


Also, the sales guy couldn't answer my question on what type of screens on the dash/cluster come with the 201A vs. 203A packages. Do they both have the dual 4" screens, or does the 203A package get a larger screen in the middle of the dash? Still no nav from what I understand (I don't want it), but a larger screen would be nice for the extra $$$.


Thanks for any answers, as I think if I could find a knowledgable sales guy I'd have real answers to these simple questions.


As far as general impressions, the motor was nice if a bit gutless below 3k RPM (I only went up to about 4-4.5k RPM), but that's to be expected. I think the throttle mapping is very conservative for the first 50% of pedal travel to get better gas mileage figures. The auto was nice and smooth, but it was in a REAL hurry to get in a high gear, and did not like dropping down a gear in normal driving. There were quite a few 30 mph corners we came out of with it in a fairly high gear and below 2k RPM with almost no discernable power available on exit. It confirmed my fears that I don't think I could get along with any autobox after doing nothing but manuals for the past 13-14 years. The little rocker on the shifter would probably not do it for me either. Just not involving enough to actually make a difference over a "dumb" autobox.

Otherwise the car was very composed, if very soft in general. I could see it being fun on a daily basis revving out the little 2L to merge onto the highway with a manual. It seemed nice and quiet at the max speed we got it up to (about 50 mph).


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Old 05-06-2011, 07:53 PM   #2
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Thanks for the report. I'm holding out for the ST, unless they try to stick a "slush box" in that too! I've never had an auto, never will. I'll guess I'll just have to buy "classics".
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Old 05-07-2011, 04:40 AM   #3
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SE trim, the optional Sport Package gives you unique wheels, a sport-tuned suspension, sport seats, a few interior bits and a spoiler and blacked-out grille. If you opt for the PowerShift automatic transmission, you’ll also have the “SelectShift” functionality.

"more body roll then your 06 Escape" this I have a very hard to time with your perception on this. I think you need to drive both back to back and get back to us before making such a statement.
Sorry but IMO you lose any cred with me when you say such a thing.
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Old 05-07-2011, 07:46 AM   #4
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Well, welcome to the forum! Take time to give us and intro.

I just picked up my '12 SE MTX Foci WITH sport package a couple days ago. Been cruising around town, and LOVE how it handles. I honestly wouldn't even mess with the suspension for anything aftermarket. The only benefit would be to lower it. I would do the suspension on all of my imports, so my taste for a tight suspension is sufficiently meet by what comes with the sport package.

Springs on SE WITHOUT Sport Package
# BV61-5310-NG* Left Front Coil
# BV61-5310-NG* Right Front Coil
# BV61-5560-NG* Left Rear Coil Spring
# BV61-5560-NG* Right Rr Coil Spring

Springs on SE WITH Sport Package
# BV61-5310-NF* Left Front Coil
# BV61-5310-NF* Right Front Coil
# BV61-5560-NF* Left Rear Coil Spring
# BV61-5560-NF* Right Rr Coil Spring
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Yes, in addition to three sets of springs, Fordparts.com also shows 3 different front/rear shock absorbers - Shock Absorber with Standard Suspension, Shock Absorber with Handling Suspension, and Shock Absorber with Touring Suspension. Different front lower control arms - one for 15" wheels and one for 16" 17" wheels (doesn't mention the 18", but would assume it is the same). Different rear suspension knuckles - one for 15" 16" 17" wheels and one for 18" wheels.
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Old 05-07-2011, 09:35 AM   #6
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Yes, in addition to three sets of springs, Fordparts.com also shows 3 different front/rear shock absorbers - Shock Absorber with Standard Suspension, Shock Absorber with Handling Suspension, and Shock Absorber with Touring Suspension. Different front lower control arms - one for 15" wheels and one for 16" 17" wheels (doesn't mention the 18", but would assume it is the same). Different rear suspension knuckles - one for 15" 16" 17" wheels and one for 18" wheels.


Posted via FF Mobile This is excellent information. Thanks for posting. Sounds like these cars were really tuned for each application, instead of just throwing on some suspension and bigger wheels.
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Springs on SE WITHOUT Sport Package
# BV61-5310-NG* Left Front Coil
# BV61-5310-NG* Right Front Coil
# BV61-5560-NG* Left Rear Coil Spring
# BV61-5560-NG* Right Rr Coil Spring

Springs on SE WITH Sport Package
# BV61-5310-NF* Left Front Coil
# BV61-5310-NF* Right Front Coil
# BV61-5560-NF* Left Rear Coil Spring
# BV61-5560-NF* Right Rr Coil Spring
Can anyone tell me if the sport package springs on the SE are the same as the springs on the SEL? Or is the SEL the same suspension setup as a stock SE?
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Old 05-12-2011, 10:41 AM   #8
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Can anyone tell me if the sport package springs on the SE are the same as the springs on the SEL? Or is the SEL the same suspension setup as a stock SE?
$1 million question right there. I'm hoping someone can answer this, and also offer some info on the Titanium (stock) as well. I'm trying to decide between either a well equipped SEL or a stock Titanium, and handling is a major factor.
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Old 05-12-2011, 12:38 PM   #9
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SEL springs

# BV61-5310-NG* Left Front Coil
# BV61-5310-NG* Right Front Coil
# BV61-5560-NG* Left Rear Coil Spring
# BV61-5560-NG* Right Rr Coil Spring

Same springs as SE stock.
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Old 07-31-2011, 09:22 AM   #10
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I have a SE w/ the 201A + sports package that was built in 6/2011.
I can confirm it has the following springs after I checked the "still vistable" barcode tags on the springs themselves.

• BV61-5310-NG* Left Front Coil
• BV61-5310-NGF E29EJ Right Front Coil (C346FRT)
• BV61-5560-NF* Left Rear Coil Spring
• BV61-5560-NFD E29EJ Right Rear Coil Spring (C346RR)





I haven't seen any built in 7/2011 yet to see if they have since changed or not.

Last edited by kevintm; 08-02-2011 at 05:25 PM. Reason: Added more details about front coils & inserted images..
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