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Old 11-28-2006, 12:15 PM   #1
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Ford Focus reliability

I felt reliability information could be much more useful, so a year ago I started collecting my own data. Differences from existing approaches will include reporting results in absolute, readily comparable numbers--like "times in the shop" and having quarterly rather than yearly updates.

I start collecting data on a model/model year when I have 25. Fords I'm already collecting data on include the Fusion (looks very good) and the Five Hundred / Freestyle (2006 looking much better than 2005).

With the Focus, I'm about halfway to the minimum for 2002, 2003, 2005, and 2006.

I personally recommend the Focus often to people looking at the Honda Fit, Toyota Yaris, and such. I think you get a more powerful, better handling car for less money. But it would be good to have some reliability stats for the car to go with my recommendation.

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Old 11-28-2006, 12:46 PM   #2
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why would you EVER recommend a ford over honda or toyota on terms of reliability?!?!?!(speaking from the exprinces i have had from cars)

the focus should be compared to civics, mazda 3s and such which they cant compare to cause ford hates the USA
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Old 11-28-2006, 03:42 PM   #3
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why would you EVER recommend a ford over honda or toyota on terms of reliability?!?!?!(speaking from the exprinces i have had from cars)

the focus should be compared to civics, mazda 3s and such which they cant compare to cause ford hates the USA
He's not saying it is more reliable, but Ford is better than you think.

What he is saying is that you get good reliablility, great handling, and an unbeatable price.

With Honda and Toyota you get great reliability, good to great handling, but for A LOT more money.

The Honda fit starts at about 15k. For that amount you could get in a LOADED ses (leather, power everything, SAP) or a well-optioned ST. My well-optioned SES (CD changer, auto, air, heated seats and mirrors) went out the door at 12,263. A corolla or civic with similar options would cost around 7 grand more.

So his point is that you could get a reliable car (though not as reliable as honda or toyota) for 50% less.

And ford doesn't hate the US, they just haven't turned a profit on a compact car since the pinto (and we know how that ended!). That's why you see them focus on pickup truck sales (they make money on them). If they really thought they could sell the euro focus here for 21k (base model) they would bring it here in a heartbeat. Their marketing tells them otherwise.
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Sundaydriver, couldn't have said it better myself.

I'd personally love to have a Ford S-Max. (I've got three small kids.) But would I pay as much for it as they charge in Europe?

Ford will bring its European models here, but restyled and rebadged as Volvos.

I previously owned a 1996 Ford Contour SE V6, which was before they started decontenting the car. Amazing car for the price, much more solidly constructed than the Mazda I now drive. Not hard to see how they lost so much money on it.

Still waiting to see how GM will profitably sell Opels here as Saturns.
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Old 11-29-2006, 11:02 AM   #5
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Sundaydriver, couldn't have said it better myself.

I'd personally love to have a Ford S-Max. (I've got three small kids.) But would I pay as much for it as they charge in Europe?

Ford will bring its European models here, but restyled and rebadged as Volvos.

I previously owned a 1996 Ford Contour SE V6, which was before they started decontenting the car. Amazing car for the price, much more solidly constructed than the Mazda I now drive. Not hard to see how they lost so much money on it.

Still waiting to see how GM will profitably sell Opels here as Saturns.
I agree! S-max is an awesome vehicle. I like the 3 across seating in the middle row. You can fold the rear seats down for enhanced cargo and still have room for the 3 kids. Much cooler than a minivan.
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:55 AM   #6
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Still looking for more cars if the Focus is to be included in the research. Updated posted for a few models last month:

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Old 06-04-2013, 12:35 PM   #7
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We've updated the our reliability stats for the Focus to include owner experiences through March 31, 2013.

Repair frequencies, in terms of repair trips per 100 cars per year:

2013: 16, low

2012: 35, moderate

2010: 52, moderate

2009: 28, low, sample size one car short!

2008: 26, low

2007: 41, low

2006: 51, moderate

2005: 48, low

2004: 31, low, small sample size

2003: 82, moderate

2002: 127, high

2001: 90, moderate, small sample size

2000: 69, low, small sample size

Thank you, once again, to everyone who has been helping. We'll have further updates later this month and in August. With more owners involved, we could provide more precise information and fully cover all model years.

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Old 12-22-2007, 03:14 PM   #8
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why would you EVER recommend a ford over honda or toyota on terms of reliability?!?!?!(speaking from the exprinces i have had from cars)

the focus should be compared to civics, mazda 3s and such which they cant compare to cause ford hates the USA
Cause the focus zetech will always be btr than civic and the SVT will always be btr than the lude, bseries, or kseries
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There will be a result for the 2005 in February. 20 responses so far. If there are fewer than 25, the result will be asterisked. It's going to be close...

If you've signed up but haven't yet responded to the survey, please do so. You can only access the survey by clicking on links in the emails I send out. If you haven't yet signed up, I hope you'll consider doing so. The larger the sample size, the more solid the results.

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Old 01-29-2008, 08:05 AM   #10
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I am picking up my wifes brand new 2008 Focus SES Sedan tonight. I would like to participate in your survey.
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