Originally Posted by darkangelism
With emissions compliance probably about what Red has at 170, the header means no cat, unless you add after market cat but that is going to hurt the gains to the point where it isnt worth the money
Once a tune comes out, I see no reason that we shouldn't see whp in the 180+ range with the factory manifold/cat in place. Just a tune, intake of some sort, and exhaust.
That is pretty darned good for an engine that has been tuned to be an economy engine. Think of what this engine could do if it had factory cams and a higher flowing head and intake manifold along the lines of the old SVT Focus.
The whp and tq numbers obtained by RED and Focusboy and others on this site are right there with the new 2.4 Civic Si engine (Honda finally has given that car a little bit of torque) with a smaller Non-performance engine.
Ford did good. If it weren't for their push for EcoBoost, they could have made a 200+ hp NA performance Focus easily.