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Old 04-22-2005, 12:32 PM   #21
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this topic has been talked about many times over with the same results. although i love reading threads of foci owners going at it its getting old. bottom line: SVT's are superior to stock foci when it comes stock to stock..modding on the other hand is a different story.
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Old 04-22-2005, 12:34 PM   #22
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"SVT's are superior to stock foci when it comes stock to stock..modding on the other hand is a different story." true true but hay the front to the 05 is pretty nice lookin
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i drove a 2.3 not to long ago when i worked at a dealership, and i was quite surprised when i got on alittle, it pulled alot harder than i thought, i dont think it would to far off an SVT and i think the 2.3 put out more torque, esp in the bottom end where the SVT's lack it.
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Old 04-22-2005, 12:59 PM   #25
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If I were near you i'd meet up. There are a couple SVTF's here but non-that I seen post here (that I know of). The #'s are close but the SVTF is quicker stock for stock. Not surprisng since it has more power. But, you could say it could be a drivers race too.
Well, I'm here if you want to meet up - about 25 miles north.

Seriously, the 2.3 has underutilized potential, but that's obvious - a 2.3 liter engine making only 145-150 crank hp obviously is not living up to its potential right out of the box.

You say the numbers are close - well, 0-60 they are close. In the quarter the SVT is a half-second or more quicker, and 0-100 the SVT is 2 1/2 seconds quicker. Top end, a 2.3 ST is governed to 118. The SVT has no governor; usually they are good to around 135.

This is for totally stock cars, of course. With a tune, an SVT is around a half-second quicker. I don't think there is a tune for the ST yet.

For handling and braking, it's not even close - like a different car. A good amount of improvement will result from getting rid of the cheap all-season tires the ST comes with.
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Show me any 2.3's beating SVT's
**** your bolt on's, stock for stock. Oh yeah, the SVTF has aftermarket too
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^^dude get off your high horse..noone is trying to talk shit in this thread so why are you??? bored?
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Last Rites is a tool. Thats all I have to post on this topic
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