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Update on Headers...
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Our Engines Here is our engine information from myfordfocus.com which proves our firing order is 1-3-4-2 http://blane.boxedge.com/pics/enginedata.gif . Introduction Firing order is continuous So it looks something like this... 1-3-4-2-1-3-4-2-1-3-4-2...etc. Look at that pattern, you can see how other number eventually pair up (1-3, 3-4, 4-2, 2-1) BUT never does the 1-4(4-1) pair or 3-2(2-3) appear. (I didn't get this at first glance) . . Now that we know how firing order runs, it's time to answer the question- How to pair them on the header? Here is my though process- If the firing order is 1-3-4-2 You pair 1 and 3 then you pair 4 and 2 Exhaust enters both 1 and 3 and collects together at the same time (creating downforce to push the exhaust out faster, which is what we want) And the same for the 4-2 pair According to my thinking when your exhaust collects it goes faster because you have the force of two releases simultaneously so that while one is reaching the collector pipe, 3 is released giving it an extra push so on and so forth. . This was found in my research- Quote:
. SUMMARY- If I am correct then you want to be looking for a header that pairs the same as the firing order. On top of that if this is a correct assumption, then the Escort GT header is the wrong firing order. How do I know this? Well if you look at the table in the first picture, the Zetec engine has the same firing order 1-3-4-2 So from there I looked up some zetec headers.... And to add to my confusion I found that they had two configurations for the 4-2-1 design. Focus Sport uses the concept I believe in, pairing up 1-3 and 4-2, but I found zetec headers on myfordfocus.com and steedafocus.com that use 1-4 2-3 for pairing. So I decided to look into the zetec Shorty header- JBA uses 1-3 and 4-2 pairing. . . EDUCATED GUESS- The majority of zetec headers, and also the more known and loved brand names use the 1-3 and 4-2 pairing concept, yet the SVT Focus pairing is 1-4 and 2-3 as well as the 86-90 Escort GT header that we know works. And Ford knows these engines better than us, so after all this I was wrong and you want to actually find a header where the first and last ports are paired and the two middle ones are paired. . . . PURCHASING INFO- It seems there is more research that shows I was probly wrong in my assumptions and that the following design is RIGHT (pairing the first and last together) http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/salfity/header.jpg I am just going to state that this is all based purely on my thought out logic. I do not know the facts of how firing order works and what the best route for exhaust flow is. I appologize if I slandered any brands, even though I feel I did not because the two websites that used the non-sequential firing order do in fact carry the sequential firing order headers as well. It may also be a misrepresentation from stock photography. So my appologies. ............................ ..................... ................ ........... ........ ..... ... . Useful information that counters my conclusion, seems his reasearch is more sturctured and backed, so we will go with his advice. Quote:
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Nice information, about time someone started getting close to a solution!
I tried this a while back but never got anywhere except confused and more questions. Pacesetter isn't the greatest exhaust company, but anything is better than a stock manifold, plus these appear kind of inexpensive anyway, so who knows? EscortFocus' engine comparison puts our SPI as the one in the 1998 escort ... hope this might help you in some way on your quest ... the #'s on their site are identical >> check it out ... Too bad the 98 models on your reference site are for zetecs ... : ( Keep us posted! |
any info yet? I'm anxious!
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I'm terribly impressed Phil. You seem to do more research on the SPI motor than ANYONE else on this site. Keep up the good work! [thumb]
BTW: Let's hope this header bolts on without out too much modification! (Oh, and I pm'ed you Phil.) |
I might skip the header though and go straight to a T4 turbo setup. I might as well boost the car while I still have it.
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i sure hope you find all this out phil, itd be great to have some more header options for the spi, i cant wait to see if you find out all the info and specs on the headers
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Wait a minute here. I'm confused now... I just went to double check something. Who knows anything about firing order? If it is 1-3 4-2 doesnt that mean that the pipes should be arranged like the second picture? (first pipe with the third and second with the fourth) so that they fire together and have enough force to go down the header?
or are they supposed to be seperated like the first picture where the first and last are together so that when each fires it is all alone in their respected pair? because I figured I would take a look at the escort GT header from focusslavage.com and take a look here, this escort GT header has the the two outside pipes together so that when each fires it is alone- http://images.marketworks.com/hi/50/...cortheader.jpg now I'm not even close to a mechanic, all I know is that there is a better header out there somewhere, if someone can answer my question about firing order we can get this puzzle solved! |
Whos has the shorty header??? whats yours look like?
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yeah shorty header pics please! I wouldn't even recognize on on eBay!
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ok so it's Focusnewb who has the shorty header. There is a picture of one on the canadian steeda website, it's on a hide function, but it can be found through google. In that picture it is the first and third second and last. but it looks alot like the zetec one so they might have just used one of those for the picture...
http://www.steeda.ca/images/products/694_m.gif |
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