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suss6052 09-20-2013 11:59 AM

2013+ Focus ST FRPP Tune info
 
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/20/6ame3u9a.jpg

Oh my....
http://www.focusst.org/forum/focus-s...tml#post191660

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Originally Posted by focus/st/guy
OK exciting news from FFRP the st tune will be available soon..I have the dyno sheet but can't share it with anyone but i can tell you they found 90 lb ft of torque at 2800 rpm and the car breaks the tires loose in 3rd gear on the dyno...not alot of hp increase but a torque monster..your patience will payoff..as soon as ffpr gets EO approval i will let everyone its available!!!!!!!!

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Might be too early to tell since it's still not quite officially CARB certified, but it's shaping up like the FRPP tune is set to massively boost torque in the midrange (claims of up to 90 lb-ft at 2800 rpm over the stock peak).

If it would qualify as a power pack and a ford racing dealer would mark the sale and put the vin in the system appropriately it may qualify as not voiding the base vehicle warranty, just like the Mustang kits.

That's really the only tune I'd consider, or maybe the Mountune, but I'm some what more conservative in my goals for modifying the car so far, and brakes/ lighter wheels and tires might be a better bet sooner.

kylesvt720 09-20-2013 04:54 PM

Over on the jet they confirmed it'll be covered under warranty.

suss6052 09-20-2013 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kylesvt720 (Post 4881011)
Over on the jet they confirmed it'll be covered under warranty.

If and only if it's installed at your local Ford store, but yes it would essentially be the analog to the Mustang GT power packages from Ford Racing. [twothumbs]

Slo86GT 09-20-2013 07:04 PM

Here's what i find interesting.... why is tuned power LOWER on top end? looks like the graph wasnt overlay'ed correctly.

suss6052 09-20-2013 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Slo86GT (Post 4881089)
Here's what i find interesting.... why is tuned power LOWER on top end? looks like the graph wasnt overlay'ed correctly.

Not exactly sure but it seems like they raised the torque targets by a fair margin which massively boosted midrange performance based on the curves presented with a smaller gain in horsepower between 2800 rpm and 5000 rpm near the current power peak. The power already starts to taper off after 5500-5800 rpm anyway so shifting past that point is less beneficial anyhow.

Per the Focus ST owners guide supplement the peak power figures were achieved at 5500 rpm on the stock calibration.

It seems that this tune is focused primarily on increasing the available torque though.

Outlaw5.0 09-20-2013 08:09 PM

You have to remember at peak hp there is more things to consider such as exhaust temps/cat temps, cylinder pressure, turbo speed, and etc. You can only do so much at peak power with live cats and stock exhaust.

suss6052 09-20-2013 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Outlaw5.0 (Post 4881134)
You have to remember at peak hp there is more things to consider such as exhaust temps/cat temps, cylinder pressure, turbo speed, and etc. You can only do so much at peak power with live cats and stock exhaust.

I'm less concerned about peak horsepower than the area under the curve and the increase in the available torque which although it's not lacking on the stock ST, the torque curve is much larger with the tune.

It's the area under the curve that really matters, and it's looking pretty nice so far, although there aren't numbers on that version of the chart.

Slo86GT 09-20-2013 10:22 PM

Disregard what I said earlier. I was looking at solids as one run and dots as the other... not color coded. Was running out of work as I saw this, and let fly a massive brain fart.

Slo86GT 09-20-2013 10:36 PM

Ehhhh, I don't care if it is covered under warranty... that looks like a turd of a remap. They added a couple pounds to the overboost at mid/low rpm... Lazy!

suss6052 09-20-2013 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Slo86GT (Post 4881244)
Ehhhh, I don't care if it is covered under warranty... that looks like a turd of a remap. They added a couple pounds to the overboost at mid/low rpm... Lazy!

How can you even know anything about an as yet un released calibration?

The torque curve looks to be broader with a larger peak and more area under the curve compared to the Cobb stage 1 tunes.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/20/6ame3u9a.jpg

vs.

http://accessecu.com/dyno/graph.php?...rgb3=000153000

If hitting 350+ ft-lbs per the estimated scaling is lazy then only hitting 313-318 ft-lbs from Cobb is an epic fail, but no one is running around lynching Cobb, so if that's all you've got to complain about I guess I just don't get it.

http://www.sctflash.com/products.php?PID=2&VID=428#1

SCT's stock tune is only good for 23 hp and 45 ft-lb of torque, which is about half as much as the Ford Racing tune is said to be developing over stock.

It's no where near as half baked as you believe it to be. I'm sorry but what are your qualifications to judge this?


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