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bloodangel694 04-25-2013 10:10 PM

Conversion Mazda > Ford Rear and Front brakes
 
I was wondering if anyone ever tried to do this, you can find many similarities and wondered if it was just simple or a pain in the .. I was expecting: front+ rear knuckles (+ brake, callipers), brake flex hoses, handbrake cable, rims/mags 5 spokes


(from a mazda 3)

Deftmetal 04-25-2013 11:06 PM

Yes it can be done but I don't know exactly how. teamDFL is thinking about doing the swap on his mk1 I think currently.

felixthecat 04-26-2013 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bloodangel694 (Post 4700615)
I was wondering if anyone ever tried to do this, you can find many similarities and wondered if it was just simple or a pain in the .. I was expecting: front+ rear knuckles (+ brake, callipers), brake flex hoses, handbrake cable, rims/mags 5 spokes


(from a mazda 3)

I'm trying to figure out what the point is on a mazda conversion? Beside 5 lug?

mikebontoft 04-26-2013 08:02 AM

because I wanna know now. forgot the rest of it.

mac.mogul 04-26-2013 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by felixthecat (Post 4700951)
I'm trying to figure out what the point is on a mazda conversion? Beside 5 lug?

Brake options, wheel options, etc.

teamDFL 04-26-2013 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by felixthecat (Post 4700951)
I'm trying to figure out what the point is on a mazda conversion? Beside 5 lug?

Larger bearing - http://www.driftninjaz.com/images/Ri...lBearings.xlsx

Significantly larger so able to take a sustained beating for longer.

The rear bearings I don't have a problem with, so I'd like redrill my hubs or just run 4 lugs in the rear.

Best source of data - http://forums.focaljet.com/mk-i-susp...rts-focus.html

If we get enough people together, perhaps www.gp-werks.com will make up a bunch of axles for us. That is the hardest part. The rest is just knowing what to get and finding it in a junkyard.

I am also working on ABS compatibility. The sensor and tone ring are the same design, so I am hopeful that it is a simple matter of mating up the wires. Full ABS function is important to me as the stock system with EBD kicks major ass.

The Mailman 666 06-09-2013 08:34 AM

I've been looking for options to convert to all wheel disc. I am a level 1 working mechanic.

As far as I can tell, the Mazda 3 and focus frames and suspension components are identical, except the knuckles, bearings, hubs and axles. I am also not sure of the spacing between the transmission and hubs. Can anyone tell me what needs to be done with the axles to make them work? Can we just not use Mazda axles? Or do we need to use inner focus axle and swap the outer Mazda axle to it? This I can do if needed.

Lappracing 06-09-2013 02:19 PM

I have done it 5 times. The 1st time was tough, but after that it is fairly easy. You can't use Mazda axles, they fit in the knuckle but not the transmission. You need to use the Mazda front control arm and modify it. You need to change the rear trailing arms to Mazda. You need to buy Mazda knuckles, control arms, rear trailing arms, rear spindles, rear brake calipers, axles, all 4 rotors, wheels, front struts, Mazda or SVT front calipers, parking brake cable and I'm sure a few other small items. It also widens the stance by about 1".

The advantage to this is 5 lug bolt pattern, but mostly (for me), is a much stronger suspension. We were breaking hubs every race weekend. Once changing over to Mazda, we have yet to break a hub. That includes racing in the 25 hours at Thunderhill race.

Junkyard price will run you around $1000-$1200 (not including wheels or struts). Then you have to make some axles.

The Mailman 666 06-09-2013 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lappracing (Post 4770236)
I have done it 5 times. The 1st time was tough, but after that it is fairly easy. You can't use Mazda axles, they fit in the knuckle but not the transmission. You need to use the Mazda front control arm and modify it. You need to change the rear trailing arms to Mazda. You need to buy Mazda knuckles, control arms, rear trailing arms, rear spindles, rear brake calipers, axles, all 4 rotors, wheels, front struts, Mazda or SVT front calipers, parking brake cable and I'm sure a few other small items. It also widens the stance by about 1".

The advantage to this is 5 lug bolt pattern, but mostly (for me), is a much stronger suspension. We were breaking hubs every race weekend. Once changing over to Mazda, we have yet to break a hub. That includes racing in the 25 hours at Thunderhill race.

Junkyard price will run you around $1000-$1200 (not including wheels or struts). Then you have to make some axles.

This is good news! do you have pictures of how to modify what needs to be modified and just exactly what is being done with the front axles?

sleepyboy 06-09-2013 05:21 PM

Good to hear this is possible you just need custom axles made right?


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