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jugglethese 02-26-2013 02:52 PM

2.0l to 2.3l head swap
 
Ive done a lot of reading up on this. and i see its possible. its just no one shows the build and what complications they came into. Ive also called around to local scrap yards to see if they have and 2.3l in there yard. they all pretty much said to me is the ford ranger doesnt have a 2.3l. i asked for the ford focus 2.3 and they dont have them in there yards :( im pretty sure the mazda speed and a few others have the 2.3l engine in them. ford owns mazda? but im not sure if it would be the same design or if it would bolt on. Has anyone done this swap? the honda kids in my town are constantly doing this. its like they have a grave yard of vtec's in there garage because there always swapping something. to me it seems like a good idea to gain a couple extra tq and hp, for not that expensive of a build, and a good project :)

Buickboy 02-26-2013 03:59 PM

The 2.3 head in the 2002+ ranger is the same as your current one

The mazda heads have VCT, which your car doesnt. This is the same for Escape, Fusion, Mazda 3,5,6 etc.

The right 2.3 can be found in 03-04 cars with a Z in the vin, and the 05-07 ST.

Try car-part.com to locate a yard instead of calling. Might save a lot of time

jugglethese 02-26-2013 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Buickboy (Post 4609836)
The 2.3 head in the 2002+ ranger is the same as your current one

The mazda heads have VCT, which your car doesnt. This is the same for Escape, Fusion, Mazda 3,5,6 etc.

The right 2.3 can be found in 03-04 cars with a Z in the vin, and the 05-07 ST.

Try car-part.com to locate a yard instead of calling. Might save a lot of time

http://car-part.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi
Would anything of these heads work?

jugglethese 02-26-2013 05:00 PM

They only have a pzev 2.3l. The other are 2.0 :s is this pzev the one I'm looking for?

Egz 02-26-2013 09:16 PM

Yes, the PZEV 2.3l uses the same head as the non-PZEV 2005-2007 ST.

jugglethese 02-26-2013 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Egz (Post 4610365)
Yes, the PZEV 2.3l uses the same head as the non-PZEV 2005-2007 ST.

Okay, there cheaper than I thought. I just hope they come with all the internal parts.

Any one know the power gains ill be expecting to get from this?

darkknight9 02-26-2013 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jugglethese (Post 4610495)
Any one know the power gains ill be expecting to get from this?

Not as much as you're going to want to hear. You will be increasing the combustion chamber size and improving breathability to the next stock part. My newest general rule of thumb: "If not forced induction or tuning computer be, expect less than double digit power gains for thee."

jugglethese 02-26-2013 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by darkknight9 (Post 4610535)
Not as much as you're going to want to hear. You will be increasing the combustion chamber size and improving breathability to the next stock part. My newest general rule of thumb: "If not forced induction or tuning computer be, expect less than double digit power gains for thee."

I don't think I can afford a turbo kit for awhile. I wouldn't even think of doing this swap without a tune afterwords. It's like putting a catback exhaust on and expecting 10-15hp gains just from that without a tune. Things just don't work that way. Some people said on other threads that they expect 151hp after that swap because that's what the 2.3 has stock. I just want to know input on this swap. Gains, problems, anything in that nature.

felixthecat 02-27-2013 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jugglethese (Post 4610577)
I don't think I can afford a turbo kit for awhile. I wouldn't even think of doing this swap without a tune afterwords. It's like putting a catback exhaust on and expecting 10-15hp gains just from that without a tune. Things just don't work that way. Some people said on other threads that they expect 151hp after that swap because that's what the 2.3 has stock. I just want to know input on this swap. Gains, problems, anything in that nature.

I'd be figuring out the cost difference vs hp/torque difference w/ a 23 head swap vs a 23 motor swap. Either one, I'd add a set of stage 1 crane cams. If you go the 23 route, I'd pull the balance shafts out.

jugglethese 02-27-2013 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by felixthecat (Post 4610807)
I'd be figuring out the cost difference vs hp/torque difference w/ a 23 head swap vs a 23 motor swap. Either one, I'd add a set of stage 1 crane cams. If you go the 23 route, I'd pull the balance shafts out.

The only problem with the motor swap is I can't get the room in my garage. My parents got way to much toys for each season. Also I can't find anyone in my research that has done the head swap :( so I don't even know if it's worth it


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