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xy0s08 01-25-2013 08:55 PM

adding power...
 
does anyone know if a 2000 focus that doesn't have power windows, locks or mirrors if the car is per-wired for those to be added? either in the locations where it needs to be or at least to the molex plug in the kick panels?

sailor 01-25-2013 10:53 PM

AFAIK, wiring is identical UNTIL it gets to the doors, so internal door wiring is needed...

Moving this to Mk 1 interior for additional help....

drewts86 01-26-2013 12:32 AM

Actually wiring is NOT identical. Cars that weren't wired from factory are going to need a wiring harness transplanted from a car that was wired for it, or a brand new wiring harness. Pick through the junkyards, you're more than likely to be able to find a car to pull from. I started the whole process, pulling the power window wiring, motors & switches and the power lock mechanism and switches and all the interior door wiring. Once I got all that I realized that I'd need the new harness, which is the next part of my quest. The car I pulled all the parts from was scrapped when I went back to get the harness. Also be sure to grab the GEM module if you want to add a wireless keyfob in the future. If you're going so far as to pull the wiring harness, it's not that much extra work. Wiring harness sucks to pull in these cars btw. It will take you a little while. The donor car is good practice because you won't have to worry so much about ripping it up or damaging it. I just took a razor blade to the carpet when I needed things.

xy0s08 01-26-2013 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by drewts86 (Post 4557496)
Actually wiring is NOT identical. Cars that weren't wired from factory are going to need a wiring harness transplanted from a car that was wired for it, or a brand new wiring harness. Pick through the junkyards, you're more than likely to be able to find a car to pull from. I started the whole process, pulling the power window wiring, motors & switches and the power lock mechanism and switches and all the interior door wiring. Once I got all that I realized that I'd need the new harness, which is the next part of my quest. The car I pulled all the parts from was scrapped when I went back to get the harness. Also be sure to grab the GEM module if you want to add a wireless keyfob in the future. If you're going so far as to pull the wiring harness, it's not that much extra work. Wiring harness sucks to pull in these cars btw. It will take you a little while. The donor car is good practice because you won't have to worry so much about ripping it up or damaging it. I just took a razor blade to the carpet when I needed things.

So when you did this where was the GEM module at and what else is attached the the harness? That I need to be aware of? And I am guessing that the car without all the power had all the bolt holes and everything there to be added just not the actually parts.

drewts86 01-26-2013 01:58 PM

I haven't finished pulling everything yet. Initially I pulled all the parts for the power mirrors, locks and windows out of the door. I actually haven't pulled the wiring harness yet. Initially I just clipped all the wires just on the inside of the door jam wire coupling, thinking I'd just be able to wire it all together from there. Wrong. Got to go back to pull the whole wiring harness. Problem is I essentially destroyed the wiring harness off the car I pulled from already. Anyhow the GEM module is located behind the glove box.

Apparently there are five versions of the central locking module:
1. Central locking
2. Central locking and remote control
3. Central locking, double locking and remote control
4. Central locking, double locking, remote control and alarm system
5. Central locking, double locking, remote control and alarm system with infrared interior scanning

I'm hoping to find the GEM associated with 1-3, 4 & 5 just seem like too much trouble.

xy0s08 01-26-2013 10:31 PM

I started looking today at the module and the harness on the car side today and it looks like its going to be a lot of work its all tapped into the car harness and is all going to have to be cut out of the other harness.

drewts86 01-26-2013 11:50 PM

Cutting won't be necessary if you pull the ENTIRE interior wiring harness. That being said, you are going to have to remove the majority of the interior trim, pull carpets back, probably remove dash, etc etc. I've done this kind of job before and it just involves being extremely anal and thorough. Being a perfectionist doesn't hurt either (<-- all describes me). Spent a few years working in a body shop before I decided that wasn't what I wanted to do my entire life.

xy0s08 01-27-2013 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drewts86 (Post 4558916)
Cutting won't be necessary if you pull the ENTIRE interior wiring harness. That being said, you are going to have to remove the majority of the interior trim, pull carpets back, probably remove dash, etc etc. I've done this kind of job before and it just involves being extremely anal and thorough. Being a perfectionist doesn't hurt either (<-- all describes me). Spent a few years working in a body shop before I decided that wasn't what I wanted to do my entire life.

well its a very good thing that i know how this car comes apart then isn't it.. i wonder how much a harness is going to cost from the junk yard.
was it pretty easy adding the window and lock motors?

drewts86 01-27-2013 08:21 PM

Windows and locks are fairly easy to install. I would recommend that if you are going to do the install of all the parts yourself, then you should go to a junkyard that will let YOU pull all the parts you need off yourself. That way you get a better understanding of how they will be going into YOUR car. Taking something apart is the best way to learn how to put it back together. If somebody else takes it apart for you, you might not be able to figure out how everything goes back together. Also, if this is a first time kind of thing for you, don't be afraid to pull out your phone and take lots of pictures. That will give you the ability to go back and see how things are supposed to look.

thingsidont 01-28-2013 12:34 AM

you could just find all the connections you need and run your own wires. I plan on getting the wire harness in the doors and all the hardware needed and just run wires where ever i need. so that way i can avoid redoing the entire harness.


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