New car opinions?
So the days of an SVT Focus or ST Focus are done due to the arrival of our first son. We will be needing a bigger car. I probably wont ever buy brand new, except for option 1
1. 2013 Ford Fusion
1.6 ecoboost, manual transmission
Pro's - Fuel economy, turbo, brand new, factory customizable, well under 30k
Con's - Low power output, new on the market/no aftermarket yet
2. 2008-09 Pontiac G8 GXP
6.2 V8, manual transmission
Pro's - full size car, great power output, great exhaust note, 25k - 30k
Con's - fuel economy
3. 2004 - 2006 Maserati Quattroporte
4.2 or 4.7 V8, automatic
Pro's - gorgeous!, great power output, great exhaust note, full size car
Con's - prices around 30k - 35k, fuel economy, maintenance?
I wouldn't feel the need to do a whole lot on the 2 V8's except for exhaust cutouts and cams for the G8. The fusion however, would need some tweaking. I would be happy with 250hp, but from a 1.6? That might need some work. What do you all think?
This forum dead or something? I posted on my motorcycle forum and immediately got 5 responses.
Get the Maserati Quattroporte sexy sounds and look. If you can afford it
G8 GXP hands down. Great power, only model G8 offered with a manual, reliable, etc. The LS engines they use are fantastic. And coupled with a manual the mileage isn't horrible. Not to mention they look fantastic, and it's interior is lightyears better than modern us-built GM cars.
Let me give you some advice. I have 2 kids, one 14 years old the other 10 years old.
When the first one was born my wife said what your wife is probably saying "we gotta get a suv/minivan/biggercar so I can carry all the s^^t around like the stroller, etc. for the baby"
So we did. In fact we bought 2. And we got rid of our small 4 bangers.
But, I just sold the one minivan and the second one is going to end up parked. And damn I am kicking myself that I didn't save one of the 4 bangers.
Your days of needing to carry around all the s&&t for the baby will scream by. Trust me on this. And one day - not very far in the future - your going to wake up and realize you can't stand driving the slushmobile, it has no pickup whatsoever, and you haven't had to haul the kids and their s&&t around for years, and when you do haul them, they don't occupy the space they used to.
The only people who are ever happy driving big slushmobiles are people who have never driven small powerful 4 bangers and don't know what they are missing.
I happen to own a V8 myself, it's a Ford 302 in a 68 Torino. When I feel the need for raw accelleration I take it to the track, and punch it. But there's no way I could possibly afford to keep that 16mpg gas hog happy, it stays in the garage most days.
If you have small cars KEEP THEM. Go buy a used minivan. It will be far easier to haul all the baby-s$%t around. Then when you have used it up and the babies are able to dress themselves - dump it.
What about something like a BMW 5 series? Very well thought out interiors and still a good bit of motor and nice handling. Can be found with a V8 or turbo 6.
Real quick search on autotrader:
2010 535i - 40k miles for $33k
I've always been really comfortable when I've been in them and they arent completely boring to drive.
If this is for you to drive, get the ST. Plenty of room...
I've gotta chime in on this one.
You want performance? Get the ST, plenty of room.
I was a little kid in the late 80's/early 90's, living in a family of 4 with one younger brother. Our family car? It was an '87 Mustang GT, which my dad claims is more cramped inside than my Sunfire is. We all fit in it just fine, it carried our stuff around. It went on long haul camping trips pulling a tent trailer and a small out board boat motor in the trunk. There is nothing wrong with a Mustang with a baby seat in the back.
The other vehicle was a '79 F-250 standard cab. That did make things a little too cramped but it was very rare that all 4 of us would pile in that at once.
There was no soccer mom mobile in our clan. [cool]
The point of the story is that you probably don't need nearly as much room as you think you do. Leg room is a non issue for kids in the back for at least the first 10 years of their life or more. Depending on the car it may never be. At 5' 11" I sat in the back seat of a 2012 Focus and my legs were just comfortable. This was with the front seat adjusted to where I would have it as a driver.
So you could go smaller and more performance, Or used, save some money any maybe gain some in performance.
Stay away from the Maserati. Many electrical problems and high maintenance costs. Go with the G8. Beautiful car... Corvette engine... Manual trans... spacious... Bremos... Awesome machine
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