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FF4 01-03-2013 09:22 AM

Focus Sales Surge 58% in Dec, 40% for 2012
 
impressive US sales figures for the Focus, with December sales 58% greater than last December

December: 22,604 + 58.3%

Total 2012: 245,922 + 40.0%

dan50 01-03-2013 10:03 AM

Impressive results. Seems to be a battle between the car's indifferent reputation (see MFT, DCT) and the really large cash incentives available.

Let's see: 22,604 sales * $ 2,000 or so per car=$ 45,000,000 just in December. Could do a lot of MFT and DCT reengineering for that and get a car that would sell based on its inherent goodness and critical acclaim rather than its low price.

valmundo 01-03-2013 10:52 AM

Yeah, like Honda didn't have any incentives in order to get rid of their 2012 civics.[80?]

tdo 01-03-2013 11:33 AM

Bought mine a couple weeks ago only because of the incentives. Got over 20% off from MSRP with the help of them (don't get any Ford worker incentives). Otherwise would have waited till spring. It's sitting now under a car cover, in the snow, till spring, while we use the 2002 one last winter.

FF4 01-03-2013 11:54 AM

incentives on the Focus were the same as last December, the increase in sales is due to added production. A 3rd shift was added in the summer in response to strong demand.

What's most impressive is that even with much better than expected sales of the C-Max, Focus sales still surged 58%. The C-Max doesn't seem to stealing sales from the Focus.

tdo 01-03-2013 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FF4 (Post 4523314)
What's most impressive is that even with much better than expected sales of the C-Max, Focus sales still surged 58%. The C-Max doesn't seem to stealing sales from the Focus.

We were very much interested in the C-Max. But once we got the options we wanted on it, the price just jumped out of what we wanted to pay.

Plus, it didn't look so much like a mini-van on-line at Ford. I was surprised how tall it was when I actually saw it on the lot. Never showed it to the wife, and she is deadfast against getting a minivan.

gkirk 01-03-2013 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tdo (Post 4523339)
We were very much interested in the C-Max. But once we got the options we wanted on it, the price just jumped out of what we wanted to pay.

Plus, it didn't look so much like a mini-van on-line at Ford. I was surprised how tall it was when I actually saw it on the lot. Never showed it to the wife, and she is deadfast against getting a minivan.

I saw a c-max the other day and it looked more like a focus than I was expecting.

The huge selling point of that car is the 47mpg. I'm really curious what people get with it.

edit: just looked it up and it looks like it doesn't generally get 47 in real world driving. Although in one review it was also faster than a GTI and about the same speed to 60 as the focus ST.

PratoN 01-03-2013 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gkirk (Post 4523399)
The huge selling point of that car is the 47mpg. I'm really curious what people get with it.

People seem to be averaging more like 40mpg and there's word that Ford's testing is going to get checked by the EPA...

However, the people that would buy a C-Max are probably loading it with several kids and probably have a lot of traffic in their commute, otherwise they wouldn't shell out the extra money for a hybrid. But still, the mileage claims are 47/47. So the 40mpg still seems kind of low to me. EDIT: Especially with the Prius getting 49mpg and Prius V getting 42mpg in real life/Fuelly. It really upsets me how far behind the US still is when it comes to gas mileage. The Prius C is getting over 50mpg!

http://www.fuelly.com/car/ford/c-max/2013

http://www.usatoday.com/story/driveo...ports/1756237/

unclebrud 01-03-2013 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gkirk (Post 4523399)
I saw a c-max the other day and it looked more like a focus than I was expecting.

The huge selling point of that car is the 47mpg. I'm really curious what people get with it.

edit: just looked it up and it looks like it doesn't generally get 47 in real world driving. Although in one review it was also faster than a GTI and about the same speed to 60 as the focus ST.

I think the C-Max looks great - it is high-time for a spacious car that is not huge. I wish it had a Turbo-Diesel engine instead of the hybrid setup, though. And, Ford's prices are mad these days...they must bake in the inevitable rebates from the start.

There is no way that it is as quick as an ST or GTI. It's probably a 9-10sec car to 60mph.

gkirk 01-03-2013 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PratoN (Post 4523424)
People seem to be averaging more like 40mpg and there's word that Ford's testing is going to get checked by the EPA...

However, the people that would buy a C-Max are probably loading it with several kids and probably have a lot of traffic in their commute, otherwise they wouldn't shell out the extra money for a hybrid. But still, the mileage claims are 47/47. So the 40mpg still seems kind of low to me.

http://www.fuelly.com/car/ford/c-max/2013

http://www.usatoday.com/story/driveo...ports/1756237/

Wow. Numbers don't lie.


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