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PowerFocer 12-02-2012 04:47 PM

Convert DBW to a cable on 2010?
 
So, its well known that the DBW system in the second gen focus is a major bottleneck when making higher power levels and there is an extreme lack of aftermarket support for such. I was wondering if anyone makes a cable conversion for the TB. If not, would it be possible to swap over the entire TB and cable assembly from say an ST and tune for it? I would really like to upgrade the intake downstream the MAF prior to going turbo so I can make better power.

Thanks in advance,
PowerFocer

Red Jay 918 12-02-2012 05:20 PM

i would imagine you'd need the intake manifold (maybe?), throttle body and perhaps the ECU from an 05-07 to make it work. or we can always beg CFM to make one for us lol.

PowerFocer 12-02-2012 05:22 PM

Not sure why you would need the IM or ECU. The TB/cable should be pretty easy to go in and should work with a tune.

Red Jay 918 12-02-2012 05:47 PM

i just say IM and ECU just in case! in case any small changes were made to either one. the intake manifolds on the 2005-2009 and 2010 Mustang GT's are silghtly different if i remember correctly and they're the same engine. ~shrugs~

felixthecat 12-02-2012 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerFocer (Post 4480572)
Not sure why you would need the IM or ECU. The TB/cable should be pretty easy to go in and should work with a tune.

I'd be figuring the difference on the manifolds. And of course you need the TB. E-mail or call Rnady or Vic at Fwerks & see what they use & do. I've had no problem w/ any mustangs whether a v/6, 5.0 or boss 302 w/ track pkg or the GT500. They get w/ the program w/ d by w.

badazz2010focus 12-03-2012 06:19 AM

you need the pedal assembly as well because there's the sensor on the pedal for the DBW.

AllCarFan 12-03-2012 09:23 AM

how much power would you be expecting to pick up? I cant imagine the cost vs HP benefit will be there

VillageT 12-03-2012 08:18 PM

I Think This is a Big Problem
 
The computer strategy for a DBW system is based on the electronic control of the throttle opening and the computer adjusts it based on engine load and pedal angle. Without the pedal angle the computer won't know what to do!

Its been a while since I played with this stuff but don't think there is any easy way to do this as I understand the pin-outs on the earlier processors are different.

Actually DBW systems tend to really improve fuel economy and performance. What are you looking for?


Village T

wrc_fan 12-04-2012 07:30 AM

^^I would say, probably looking for better drivablility and performance. One of the few things I hate on my WRX, the DBW just can't keep up with my rev matching. It could be improved with a tune, I know, but I'm not willing to risk my powertrain warranty.

Egz 12-04-2012 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerFocer (Post 4480537)
So, its well known that the DBW system in the second gen focus is a major bottleneck when making higher power levels

How much power are you talking about? 450hp+? Because it really isn't that big of a bottleneck except for extreme builds.


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