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Kupipin 11-14-2012 01:53 PM

"Avoid like the Plague"(2002) -Carcomplaints.com
 
I have recently bought a 2002 ZX5 with only 67k on it. I've read countless 4-5 star reviews of the Focus both 2002 and otherwise. But the day I got it the guy who inspected my vehicle warned that this engine has a habbit of exploding at 80k and there's nothing I can do about it. I found This Arcticle later that day.

Now I feel like an idiot. Most people are actually getting 100k out of it but I feel like I'm driving a time bomb now. Is there anything I can do to prevent a disaster like the one described by 90% of the people on that site?

The problem I'm referring to is the engine griding itself apart when one of the pistons looses pressure, drops, and ruins the cylinder.

What should I do?
#PanicModeActivated.

Merrigan 11-14-2012 01:56 PM

Happened to my uncles 02 ZX4. But it was around 300k when it happened. We never heard anything about this issue until after. I don't think he done anything in particular. Just regular maintenance. He bought another focus after.

Sent from your mom's house.

bringler26 11-14-2012 01:58 PM

The hatchback you have came with a zetec which is one of the most reliable engine platforms that I know in the car. I havent heard of any problems with the 02 zetec. I believe your mechanic is referring to the 2.0 spi engine which is know to drop valve seats thus destroying pistons and catastrophic failure.

cbdallas 11-14-2012 02:03 PM

First off, what exactly does "when one of the pistons looses pressure, drops, and ruins the cylinder" mean? Looses pressure = loses compression (I guess). Drops? How would a piston drop? I suppose the connecting rod could break, but that typically happens on the compression or exhaust stroke, sending the piston into the head. I guess it COULD fall back down into the pan after the connecting rod moves out of the way, but the piston 'dropping' wouldn't be the source of all the damage.

You may have to consider the source when reading reviews like that. Self-destructing engines are actually very rare, and can most often be attributed to abuse or neglect. Neglect includes having never changed a timing belt, which is a great way to do big $$ worth of damage to an engine when it breaks....if the engine is 'interference type'. Running engine oil past its useful life, or running the engine low on oil are other common causes of premature death. Overheating is another one. All of these can be prevented 99% of the time with good maintenance practices.

I have read horror stories about the MK1 Focus, but it related to stacks of recalls the car incurred during its growing pains period. I'm not at all familiar with stories of the engine committing suicide at 80K for no reason. Just about any modern engine can be good for 300K if it's well maintained and not abused.

bringler26 11-14-2012 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbdallas (Post 4455520)
First off, what exactly does "when one of the pistons looses pressure, drops, and ruins the cylinder" mean? Looses pressure = loses compression (I guess). Drops? How would a piston drop? I suppose the connecting rod could break, but that typically happens on the compression or exhaust stroke, sending the piston into the head. I guess it COULD fall back down into the pan after the connecting rod moves out of the way, but the piston 'dropping' wouldn't be the source of all the damage.

You may have to consider the source when reading reviews like that. Self-destructing engines are actually very rare, and can most often be attributed to abuse or neglect. Neglect includes having never changed a timing belt, which is a great way to do big $$ worth of damage to an engine when it breaks....if the engine is 'interference type'. Running engine oil past its useful life, or running the engine low on oil are other common causes of premature death. Overheating is another one. All of these can be prevented 99% of the time with good maintenance practices.

I have read horror stories about the MK1 Focus, but it related to stacks of recalls the car incurred during its growing pains period. I'm not at all familiar with stories of the engine committing suicide at 80K for no reason. Just about any modern engine can be good for 300K if it's well maintained and not abused.

Like i said the SPI is notorious for dropping valve seats. His hatch shouldn't have an SPI. Some in Canada came with them but I don't know the quantity. In the United States all hatch had a zetec in 02.

xxMichaelAnthony 11-14-2012 02:14 PM

You dont have that motor in your car. Dont worry about it. You have a ZETEC. Plenty of them on here with over 200,000 miles, mine included. Go back and tell the inspector he is an idiot and then dont go back to him for anything.

mikebontoft 11-14-2012 02:15 PM

the spi is the only bad engine... it IS NOT IN YOUR ZX5 Don't worry about it.

rambleon84 11-14-2012 02:22 PM

To make yourself feel a little better, look under the hood.

This is the ticking time bomb that most wrote about:
2.0L SOHC SPlit Port Injection (SPI)
http://www.focushacks.com/images/engines/EngineSPI.jpg

This is the motor you have:
2.0L DOHC Zetec
http://www.focusfanatics.com/gallery...y_resized_.jpg

Kupipin 11-14-2012 02:24 PM

Thank you all. I do recall him saying it was because I have an "SPI" (but I could only remember the "P" at time of posting). I am glad to hear that I probably wont have any issues. How can I be sure what kind of engine I have? I've read that the VIN can tell you?

@cbdallas:
Your post.
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My head.

I was going off hear-say, I'm not a car guru myself, I understand basic mechanics of Cogs and belts and such but not the specifics of engines.

rambleon84 11-14-2012 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kupipin (Post 4455551)
Thank you all. I do recall him saying it was because I have an "SPI" (but I could only remember the "P" at time of posting). I am glad to hear that I probably wont have any issues. How can I be sure what kind of engine I have? I've read that the VIN can tell you?

@cbdallas:
Your post.
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My head.

I was going off hear-say, I'm not a car guru myself, I understand basic mechanics of Cogs and belts and such but not the specifics of engines.

look at pictures above in my post. its pretty easy, one says split port on it and they look way different.


also where did you find that website in your first post? It says every focus prior to 2008 is a clunker or worse lol. Many around here would probably disagree with that


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