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MC1992 10-06-2012 04:05 PM

Windshield Molding Clip Rail
 
Just wondering if the plastic clip railing under the rubber windshield molding on the A pillar on the driver side needs the windshield remove in order to get it replace. Reason I'm asking is because my car was hailed earlier and was at the shop to get it fix. One of the repairs done was the rubber molding running along the windshield of the A pillar on the driver side that was beaten up. The guy pulled the molding straight up and broke a few clips. I later found out that it was best to slide and lift than to directly lift which caused the clips to get broken because it seemed a bit loose when I got home in which I tried to straighten out. They are made of very (VERY) thin plastic. I told the repair guy and he said he'll order a new one. But my main concern after I got back home and examine it bit closer is this thin plastic clip railing seems to be slide and tucked under the windshield's edge. So now I'm wondering if that's the case will he need to remove the windshield? If it's too much work and I frankly don't want this car going back in for more repairs later, if I should just buy some trim adhesive or have them do that and glue it back on.

jdetzel 10-07-2012 10:43 AM

I would make him fix it correctly. You or your insurance company paid the have it done right?

According to the information I have the glass does not have to come out. But if the glass needs to be pulled he can call an auto glass company to take it out to replace the retainer and put the windshield back in.

If you just glue the trim back down it could be a problem if you ever need to have your windshield replaced. The front and rear glass are set in a urethane adhesive and become a structural part of the vehicle. The surface where the glass is bonded to the car has to be carefully prepared and if there is additional adhesive in the area it will need to be removed which could damage the paint and corrosion protection in that area.

The part is called a "pillar molding retainer strip". Here is the part # BM5Z5803179A and is costs about $50. Also if he deformed the molding pulling if off incorrectly then he needs to replace that as well. If not, it will not fit right and be a constant problem.

As a consolation, some trim items like that are a one time use, you can not get them off in good enough condition to be reused. If that is the case the insurance company will pay for it.

I see your molding was damaged and you have a new one. Just inspect it carefully to make sure it was not damaged being put back on incorrectly before you reuse it.

downincircles 10-08-2012 03:45 PM

My dealer broke mine when they installed my new windshield. They fixed it the next day though.

j ferguson 06-23-2013 09:02 AM

While I was yet un-Focused, not having bought a new car since 1984, I imagined that things had changed and one no longer needed to go through the fix-stuff-they-screwed-up-at-the-factory cha-cha. But no such luck - nothing has changed.

My plight is that the 2013 Focus SE i bought in Baltimore, "NEW" with 18 miles on it has a loose driver-side windshield trim strip undiscovered before going out on 95 to see how it drove. It flaps in the wind.

So I looked at it carefully, found that it had been "glued" to the underlying plastic strip with some sort of adhesive - which hadn't worked.

I bought access to the Service Manual and read the comments I've found on the net on this subject. My conclusion is that somehow, the strip was removed or its factory installation was bungled such that the latches on the underlying strip were broken off and the adhesive seemed like a great idea to whoever faced the problem. Well it wasn't a great idea.

My take is that a proper fix will require the removal of the windshield in order to replace the clip strip which is under it, the replacement of the windshield and the installation of two new trim strips. I would have called them bezels, but maybe Ford likes it simpler.

I'm not sure I have the heart to make Ford do it right on this very obvious warranty problem. Why take a chance on the windshield replacement being screwed up.

If they can glue this trim-piece down successfully, that might be ok. It would not be reusable if it was installed properly in any case.

If i ever need to replace the windshield, they would still need to replace the underneath clip strips and the two trim pieces.

Am I wrong about any of this? Am I missing something important?

What would you do in this situation?

dan50 06-23-2013 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j ferguson (Post 4785882)
While I was yet un-Focused, not having bought a new car since 1984, I imagined that things had changed and one no longer needed to go through the fix-stuff-they-screwed-up-at-the-factory cha-cha. But no such luck - nothing has changed.

My plight is that the 2013 Focus SE i bought in Baltimore, "NEW" with 18 miles on it has a loose driver-side windshield trim strip undiscovered before going out on 95 to see how it drove. It flaps in the wind.

So I looked at it carefully, found that it had been "glued" to the underlying plastic strip with some sort of adhesive - which hadn't worked.

I bought access to the Service Manual and read the comments I've found on the net on this subject. My conclusion is that somehow, the strip was removed or its factory installation was bungled such that the latches on the underlying strip were broken off and the adhesive seemed like a great idea to whoever faced the problem. Well it wasn't a great idea.

My take is that a proper fix will require the removal of the windshield in order to replace the clip strip which is under it, the replacement of the windshield and the installation of two new trim strips. I would have called them bezels, but maybe Ford likes it simpler.

I'm not sure I have the heart to make Ford do it right on this very obvious warranty problem. Why take a chance on the windshield replacement being screwed up.

If they can glue this trim-piece down successfully, that might be ok. It would not be reusable if it was installed properly in any case.

If i ever need to replace the windshield, they would still need to replace the underneath clip strips and the two trim pieces.

Am I wrong about any of this? Am I missing something important?

What would you do in this situation?

I would have Ford fix it correctly, even if that means a new windshield. I mean, c'mon: with DCT issues, rattling front suspensions and MFT blow-ups that Ford ignores, it's just Karma.

Plus, a windshield isn't that hard to replace and if you ever need one in the future, do you think Ford will provide you with free trim pieces? One more thing: one of my Focus trips included 300 I80 miles accross Wyoming with a 40-50 mph wind on the nose. Not sure a glued-down trim piece would've survived that journey.

j ferguson 06-23-2013 09:41 AM

Thanks Dan,

I'll do what you suggest. If I went with better glue, it would likely come loose again where it would be really inconvenient.

My past experience includes a lot of VWs (11), the usual '40s and '50s cars, a couple of Benzes, a 1968 BMW 2002, Maxima, Honda CRX, SAAB 5 door, Neon (gasp), and other chevies, olds, and fords - well after all, I am 70.

This Focus drives better than all of them with the exception of the BMW - nothing I've driven has ever handled as well as that car did, except some other BMWs. SAAB was close, but this Focus is closer. I really like it.

I wish I'd been able to convince SWMBO who will also be driving it that the manual was a good idea. the automatic on ours, the one with the upshift and downshift buttons seems a bit unfocused - can't seem to settle on what it should be doing.

thanks again. I think your advice is sound.

j ferguson 06-24-2013 10:59 AM

a bit of follow-up:

took the car to the dealer. the service guy looked at it, understood the problem immediately and noted that the fool who had done this had used sealant rather than adhesive and observed that if he had used adhesive it might have worked. He wasn't prepared to guess whether this fix had been done by the dealer or the factory, but we did find some abrasions on the shotgun side trim which suggests that there might have been some trauma to the windshield installation after the car left the factory. Alas, we'll never know.

He agreed that the only way this could be fixed by them - Koons in Baltimore, a class act except they charge for coffee in the service waiting lounge - was the right way. Hooray!

So he ordered up new trim strips and the possibly broken underlying attach-strip and said he'd call me when they came in - not back-ordered either.

FordService 06-24-2013 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j ferguson (Post 4786954)
...So he ordered up new trim strips and the possibly broken underlying attach-strip and said he'd call me when they came in - not back-ordered either.

Thanks for the update, j ferguson! Let us know when your Focus strips come in; if you need any assistance feel free to give me a shout. I'll need a PM from you with your information to get started. Be sure to include your VIN, dealer, mileage, daytime phone number, and full name.

Crystal

j ferguson 07-03-2013 09:06 AM

a bit more follow-up. Replacement trim and inner strip not yet at dealer. We had to take an extended trip so i glued the trim down with Gel-type isocyanurate (Super Glue). so far so good.

We're up to 500 miles, and the mileage display is showing 37.6 mpg cruising at 65 mph on interstate. things seemed to have settled in faster than i expected.

Can anyone tell me the specific oil that the factory ships new Focii with? Doubtless it's MotoCraft 5W20, but synthetic blend or full synthetic?


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