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Vorschlaghammer! 09-23-2012 11:51 AM

Looking for a little advice. First time buyer looking at an ST
 
Hey guys, Just found the boards here, and I've been reading a lot and learned a lot in the last few days. Was hoping I could get a little advice, because I'm about to pull the trigger, and don't want to get taken for a ride on my first new car purchase.

I've done some research, and I know what I want. The nearest dealer to me has an ST2 on the lot, with an MSRP price of 28,570. I've looked on Carsdirect.com, and it said the "target price" for the ST2 with the same options is 27,793.

I have excellent credit, and am able to get a loan through my credit union with no problems.

The car they have on the lot at the dealer near me has a moon roof, which I'm not super crazy about, so if the right price doesn't come along, I'd have no problem walking away. But knowing this, would it be feasible to have an ST ordered to the exact specs I want? I know most people put orders in months ago and are still waiting on them. Is this even a realistic option at this point in the game?

Unfortunately it's tough to get reliable pricing opinions online because the ST is so new to the market, and it seems like most of the people on here that are buying them are getting them with employee discounts that I am not eligible for.

Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated. I'm just looking for a bit of good info before I get fed to the sharks!

Thanks everyone!

Nik00117 09-23-2012 07:34 PM

yes the dealership can order the car, they make not like it but they can. Also it's not too late in the game to order.

I'd approach is this way though. Walk in look at the ST etc and after awhile say I'll purchase at that price minus the sunroof. If you can't do that, then please order a new ST without a sunroof.

They can still order.

lddavis 09-24-2012 09:38 AM

You can always order a car from a dealer. Advantages are getting exactly what you want; disadvantages are having to wait.

Also, Ford has allocations for popular models, to make sure one dealer doesn't grab them all, and get them to the places that actually sell. I doubt you'd run into this with a Focus, but it's possible. Maybe the ST, right now, since it's just starting to be produced.

Dealers usually prefer to sell stock they already have in inventory, if for no other reason than they've borrowed money to stock it and they're paying interest. So you might have to twist their arm to place the order.

The reason most people that ordered their Focus ST months ago are still waiting is that Ford is just now (Oct 1) beginning to produce the ST3 variant (the 202A options package). There's a backlog of preorders from before the car was in production at all that they have to work through.

Even under good conditions, 8 weeks is not an unreasonable time to expect to wait if you order a car.

It's good that you can walk away. The ability to just say no is your best negotiating tool with the dealer.

I'm not a moonroof fan either, and I've seen exactly zero of the initial round of ST2s come out without a moonroof. Guess that's just what Ford chose to build in the first wave.

Vorschlaghammer! 09-24-2012 02:53 PM

Thanks for the advice it actually helped me a lot. I was able to place an order on an ST 2.

They had 2 in stock, and tangerine scream one (which there was no way I was buying) and the performance blue one that I came for. Unfortunately the blue one came from the factory with a broken second gear so they were replacing the transmission and I wasn't able to yes drive that one. I test drove the tangerine one and fell in love. Definitely knew I wanted the car at tha point. When we got back to the office he tried to offer me $33k. Which I laughed at. Told him I didn't want to buy a broken car with options that I didn't want to pay for at an unreasonable price. Argued for half an hour and ordered a white St2 with no sunroof for the price I wanted!

In 6-8 weeks I'll be one happy camper!

Thanks again guys!

6769MOPARS 09-24-2012 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vorschlaghammer! (Post 4370830)
Thanks for the advice it actually helped me a lot. I was able to place an order on an ST 2.

They had 2 in stock, and tangerine scream one (which there was no way I was buying) and the performance blue one that I came for. Unfortunately the blue one came from the factory with a broken second gear so they were replacing the transmission and I wasn't able to yes drive that one. I test drove the tangerine one and fell in love. Definitely knew I wanted the car at tha point. When we got back to the office he tried to offer me $33k. Which I laughed at. Told him I didn't want to buy a broken car with options that I didn't want to pay for at an unreasonable price. Argued for half an hour and ordered a white St2 with no sunroof for the price I wanted!

In 6-8 weeks I'll be one happy camper!

Thanks again guys!

I ordered the same car - blue ST2 w charcoal/blue interior and nothing else. I should have mine in 6-8 weeks as well. Congratulations - great choice.

Vorschlaghammer! 09-24-2012 05:06 PM

Congrats to you too man. I can't wait till I get to drive that thing home! I was lovin it in the test drive, but I just wanted to open it up and see what she really had! Haha. Gonna be a tough 8 weeks!

SCTSVT 10-02-2012 07:11 PM

Is it possible to order a Race red ST2 and get the tangerine scream interior in it?

lddavis 10-03-2012 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SCTSVT (Post 4383974)
Is it possible to order a Race red ST2 and get the tangerine scream interior in it?

Ronald McDonald, is that you? :)

Seriously, though -- the Ford configurator (see ford.com, find the Focus ST section and "Build and Price") does not allow that combination. Race Red forces the Smoke Storm inserts.

SCTSVT 10-03-2012 09:38 AM

That's what I figured but I was almost hoping since sometimes you can get special options with Ford products I could get a two tone with red paint. The black is just too boring for me. Hopefully Ford will offer red on red like my SVT currently is. Until then, I think I'm going to hold off and see if that's a late 2013 or 2014 option

acbauza 10-03-2012 12:16 PM

My ST2 in Performance Blue has no moonroof, but it does have NAV. To be honest this is the last car I will get Nav in.

Anthony

Quote:

Originally Posted by lddavis (Post 4370305)
You can always order a car from a dealer. Advantages are getting exactly what you want; disadvantages are having to wait.

Also, Ford has allocations for popular models, to make sure one dealer doesn't grab them all, and get them to the places that actually sell. I doubt you'd run into this with a Focus, but it's possible. Maybe the ST, right now, since it's just starting to be produced.

Dealers usually prefer to sell stock they already have in inventory, if for no other reason than they've borrowed money to stock it and they're paying interest. So you might have to twist their arm to place the order.

The reason most people that ordered their Focus ST months ago are still waiting is that Ford is just now (Oct 1) beginning to produce the ST3 variant (the 202A options package). There's a backlog of preorders from before the car was in production at all that they have to work through.

Even under good conditions, 8 weeks is not an unreasonable time to expect to wait if you order a car.

It's good that you can walk away. The ability to just say no is your best negotiating tool with the dealer.

I'm not a moonroof fan either, and I've seen exactly zero of the initial round of ST2s come out without a moonroof. Guess that's just what Ford chose to build in the first wave.



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