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TiPilot 07-09-2012 10:24 AM

Trip Report: 2,000 Miles in my Focus Ti - Good, Bad, and Ugly
 
Over the past week or so the wife and I took my Focus on a serious road trip, logging just under 2,000 miles. There are quite a few things worth discussing, some of which would be equally at home in other threads - such as MFT issues, but I wanted to keep everything together in one location. So, here goes...

The Route:
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Overall Thoughts
  • THE GOOD [8D]
    • Let's fact it, this car is fun to drive - I had a blast in the twisties in Upstate NY, VT, and NH
    • MPGs were pretty good and occasionally great. All told, I managed 37.6 MPG (hand-calculated) over the length of the trip, which was 90% hwy / 10% city
    • The car is very comfortable. We drove over 600 miles one day (NYC to Ohio) and I really wasn't sore anywhere except my left elbow - I really wish Ford used more padding on the door armrest!
    • A/C did a great job in the hot weather - having the Auto system was great for a long trip like this
    • Park Assist superbly parked itself in downtown Manchester, NH - the first time I've used it in a crowded city (see Photo #1)
  • THE BAD [:(]
    • Even with the 12B37 update, there was some occasional jerkiness when shifting - including some serious thunks at both slow and highway speeds. It definitely seems to be worse when the car's been driving a while / warmed up.
    • The MPG meter in my car is noticeably (and repeatedly) off from my hand-calculated MPGs. I've been tracking it with every tank since April and, over that time, it averages a nearly 10% error.
  • THE UGLY [scream]
    • Oh MFT, we have such a love/hate relationship. When you're good, you're kind of awesome. But when you act up... [:(!]
    • 3x Nav SD Card Faults (which kills my USB/iPod and Nav, at least temporarily until it re-recognizes the SD card and reboots - see Photo #2)
    • 3x complete MFT crashes, i.e. the all-too-familiar 'Performing Scheduled System Maintenance' screen
    • Completely lost BT Audio pairing (but not Phone?) with my phone - and, of course, you can't re-pair until you're stopped - so I lost all streaming audio for a couple hours since I didn't want to pull off the highway just to re-pair my phone... (see Photo #3)
    • USB/iPod suddenly stopped responding to Fwd/Next Track functionality; it won't shuffle or go to the next song either - it simply repeats the same song over and over and over...
    • For the first time since I've owned the car, BT Audio stopped showing the Rew/Play/Fwd buttons on the Entertainment screen and instead displayed a "Bluetooth Audio Stream Detected" message (see Photo #4)

MPG (hand-calc'ed) for the Trip:
Tank #1 ... 294 miles ... 35.4 MPG* ... 100% Hwy ... 93 Octane - Speedway (*see Note #1 below - and Photo #5)
Tank #2 ... 486 miles ... 45.0 MPG ... 90% Hwy .... 93 Octane - Shell (see Photo #6)
Tank #3 ... 277 miles ... 34.3 MPG ... 80% Hwy .... 87 Octane - Gulf Oil
Tank #4 ... 328 miles ... 35.2 MPG ... 80% Hwy .... 87 Octane - Shell
Tank #5 ... 418 miles ... 36.8 MPG ... 100% Hwy ... 87 Octane - Exxon
Tank #6 ... 116 miles ... 36.1 MPG ... 90% Hwy .... 87 Octane - Shell

Note #1 - On the first tank, the pump said it filled 8.3 gallons even though the tank was only half-empty. Normally I'd just assume the gauge doesn't read in a completely linear fashion - except the other 5 tanks on the trip took exactly how much fuel you'd expect relative to the fuel gauge reading, I suspect that the pump may have been mis-calibrated. I'm going to call the gas station / county weights and measures department to investigate. Had the fill been about 1.5 gal less (which would agree much more closely with the MPG and miles driven) then it would've been around 43 MPG for that leg.

Note #2 - As far as I know, every station I filled up at was selling E10 (non-pure) gas.

Note #3 - Temperatures were in the 80-100 deg F range for the entire trip. We had a slight tailwind (5-10 MPH) on the first tank and a headwind (5-15 MPH) on the last couple of tanks. Tanks 2-5 included some mountain highway driving. Cruise was set to 65 MPH for the vast majority of the trip; highway speed generally varied from 55-70 when off cruise due to congestion, passing, etc.

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Photo #1 - Impressive Self-Parking Job in Manchester, NH
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Photo #2 - Nav SD Card Fault
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Photo #3 - Lost BT Audio Pairing (... but Phone Functionality Still Paired?!)
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Photo #4 - Missing Fwd/Play/Rew Controls on BT Audio
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Photo #5 - Distance to E Immediately After First Fuel-Up (Start of Tank #2)
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Photo #6 - Awesome MPGs on Tank #2 (Photos Taken with Just Under 1/2 Tank Remaining)
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Final Thoughts:
  • Overall, it was an enjoyable trip. The ride was smooth and quiet and the car handled well in both the flat and hilly parts of the trip.
  • MPGs were as good as or better than the EPA specs. I don't have enough data points to come to a real conclusion, but it does seem as though running Premium / 93 Octane may result in a noticeable bump in MPGs. Not sure if that effect would be as pronounced in cooler temperatures?
  • MFT still needs a lot of work. Multiple complete crashes and reboots during a one-week trip certainly suggest that v3.0.2. is far, far from the 'performance upgrade' Ford advertised it to be. I love the Nav when it's working, but it's equally frustrating to have to pull my phone out and look up addresses on Google Maps because it's 5x-10x faster (and less distracting) than going through a bunch of Sync voice prompts.

Ok, that's my novel. Time to let all you Fanatics chime in...

[popcorn] [ffrocks]

darkangelism 07-09-2012 10:34 AM

That parking job was great, I havnt had to parallel park it yet

scott7278 07-09-2012 10:39 AM

That's such a shame about MFT. I avoided it because of all the issues I read about here when researching different cars, but no one who paid the amount of money you all have should have to put up with that.

Brilliant idea, poor execution. Hopefully, they'll clear it up soon.

TiStick 07-09-2012 10:47 AM

Glad your trip was safe! MFT is the only non +1 in this car(I have a manual tranny). However, I had a Kenwood eXcelon 6960 in my Corvette. It would NAV glitch, drop my BT phone, lose the iPod, took forever to load the album art from the iPod, etc. MFT has been far less glitchy then the Kenwood so far. I do have a Garmin nuvi2555LMT for nav in my Ti, so that is never an issue.

Good observations. I am finding my experience very similar. I would definitely buy this same car again.

rgonyer 07-09-2012 10:53 AM

Starting to really stress about MFT. I have a 2013 ST ordered with option package ST3 which includes Nav and MFT. I really want the package for the HID's and black leather seats, but unfortunately you can't get those without MFT. I have a real problem with "technology" that has this many problems being included on cars. Nevermind texting and driving, I wonder how many people have crashed or nearly crashed trying to change a song on the radio etc.

TiStick 07-09-2012 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rgonyer (Post 4249967)
Starting to really stress about MFT. I have a 2013 ST ordered with option package ST3 which includes Nav and MFT. I really want the package for the HID's and black leather seats, but unfortunately you can't get those without MFT. I have a real problem with "technology" that has this many problems being included on cars. Nevermind texting and driving, I wonder how many people have crashed or nearly crashed trying to change a song on the radio etc.

I think you may be over-analyzing at this point. MFT issues are an annoyance at their worst. While I agree that they should not be happening in the first place, IMHO they do not detract from the overall enjoyment of this vehicle. The ST should be at least 57.5% more enjoyable straight out of the box, you may not notice it even has a radio for the first week.

RonMaiden 07-09-2012 11:03 AM

I'm having the same exact issue with my iPod/sync and when I disconnect the iPod it plays all my songs from the one song that the sync was repeating til I hit shuffle on the iPod again. I checked the 3 iPods we have and the system does it to all of them.

Also from your story I am glad I avoided the MFT and the auto tranny which seems to be pretty problematic for a good percentage of owners.

TiPilot 07-09-2012 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonMaiden (Post 4249980)
I'm having the same exact issue with my iPod/sync and when I disconnect the iPod it plays all my songs from the one song that the sync was repeating til I hit shuffle on the iPod again. I checked the 3 iPods we have and the system does it to all of them.

Also from your story I am glad I avoided the MFT and the auto tranny which seems to be pretty problematic for a good percentage of owners.

FWIW, I still like the tranny overall - it just occasionally does things that leave you wondering what the heck just happened. In particular, I can recall at least two times when I pressed the gas and nothing happened for an uncomfortably long time while oncoming traffic was getting closer by the millisecond.

And, as I mentioned, I still like MFT overall - it has a lot of great features. Ford just needs to figure out this programming (especially so you can truly wipe the system - it's clear from my experience and others' that, even when a dealer 'wipes' it, some information is always retained) and enable a true, fresh install. I really think that'll solve most of the problems. I just hope they do so sooner rather than later.

TiStick 07-09-2012 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonMaiden (Post 4249980)
I'm having the same exact issue with my iPod/sync and when I disconnect the iPod it plays all my songs from the one song that the sync was repeating til I hit shuffle on the iPod again. I checked the 3 iPods we have and the system does it to all of them.

Also from your story I am glad I avoided the MFT and the auto tranny which seems to be pretty problematic for a good percentage of owners.

FYI, the Kenwood in my Corvette and the JVC in my Subaru had the EXACT same iPod issues as MFT. Frequent lockups and iPod reboots. I think that since Apple doesn't like to share their code for integration, radio manufacturers like Kenwood, JVC, and Sony have to break in and write code that works "most" of the time.

wantz12 07-09-2012 11:15 AM

Next time you're in Allentown, hit me up! I'll show you everything there isn't to see here!!!


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