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PratoN 12-29-2011 03:50 PM

Removing Steering Limiters in Ti Handling Package
 
As you probably know, the Focus has a 36' curb-to-curb turning diameter. However, with the Titanium Handling Package, there are steering limiters to stop the wider tires from rubbing. This bumps the turning diameter to 40'. I can't do a U-turn unless the next street has 3 lanes; it's kind of embarrassing to have to do a 3 point turn (in a compact) on a busy street.

My winter tires are P195 65R15 - and I could sure use a tighter turning radius when the snow finally comes. I'm kind of a novice when it comes to cars, so I was wondering:

1. Has anyone has removed these? (if they can be removed?)
2. Are the steering limiters bump stops or built into the steering rack or what?
3. Would these be too much of a hassle to remove and put back on every season? I could always leave them off and sell the 18" rims for something else.

Thanks for the help, guys! [:D]

Ox-y-GenIII 12-29-2011 10:30 PM

Good question for those with Titaniums. If it is possible to remove them and you put your 18's back on I'd just try not to turn the steering wheel to the lock position and forget about it. But goodluck. id love to buy some 18's from the handling packages.

cuke2u 12-30-2011 11:04 AM

Hi, I don't understand the problem, with the limiters the turning circle is under an extra couple of feet. I've never found this to be a problem, it is exactly the same as my Mondeo...
Chris

noahsfocus 12-30-2011 11:30 AM

I agree ... very wide turning radius with the 18's. Can be frustrating doing 3 point turns all the time. Would love to remove these and be able to turn a lot sharper. A little rub can't hurt that much and once you know how tight before it rubs then you could avoid it.

I think I read that it's a different steering rack that causes this but if it was some stoppers that would be nice.

Great question! Anybody know?

gtncpa 12-30-2011 11:33 AM

My wife's Mountaineer can turn on a dime. The front tires almost go perpendicular to the back ones. The "K" turn gives the impression to other drivers that I cant drive.

cuke2u 12-30-2011 11:37 AM

"I agree ... very wide turning radius with the 18's. Can be frustrating doing 3 point turns all the time. Would love to remove these and be able to turn a lot sharper. A little rub can't hurt that much and once you know how tight before it rubs then you could avoid it."


Hi, you would then need to tell your insurance company that you'd made a modification...

The ST version of the Mk2-2.5 also had to have limiters to stop the wheels from fouling, Not sure about your country but over here it would be illegal to have this happening...

Chris

PratoN 12-30-2011 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuke2u (Post 3946085)
Hi, I don't understand the problem, with the limiters the turning circle is under an extra couple of feet. I've never found this to be a problem, it is exactly the same as my Mondeo...
Chris

It's not HORRIBLE, but like I said - that extra 4 feet is the difference between being able to do a U-turn over 3 lanes of traffic instead of 4 lanes. Doesn't seem like that much, but I turn around on residential streets far more often than 6-lane highways.

EDIT: And I don't intend on having my tires rub - that's why I mentioned I have the smaller winter tires.

mikebontoft 12-30-2011 02:26 PM

Thats brilliant... tell the insurance company you modified your steering and see what happens.

In guessing it may be in the rack but Im not sure

funcrew 01-03-2012 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikebontoft (Post 3946273)
Thats brilliant... tell the insurance company you modified your steering and see what happens.

In guessing it may be in the rack but Im not sure

An insurance adjuster would never figure that out. They're not going to take the car apart in the CSI lab.

If it were my car, I'd pop the limiters and let the tires rub - at 5mph it's not going to hurt a thing.

cuke2u 01-03-2012 01:30 PM

Hi, I think any insurance inspection, if it were to take place because the police saw signs of tyre rub, easily spotted after an accident, would say that the vehicle had be modified and not pay out. At the end of the day it is up to the owner whether to take the risk, personally I wouldn't take the risk in removing the limiters as they are there for a reason as I have no problem manuvering my car an any of our, often narrower, roads and car parks. As to if you do because you've fitted narrower wheels, it is still making a modification to the steering what ever way you look at it.
Chris


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