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eliaslincoln 10-29-2010 01:32 PM

Looking for rally knowledge input
 
I am slowly turning my car into more of a rallycross car than a autocross car now. So im wondering what you guys think of my suspension ideas. I think im going to get some kyb agx's so i can adjust them to soft and stiff if i need and now i'm wondering what springs to run. I have tein s-tech what im wondering if they will be a little to stiff. anybody running a cheap suspension out there for rally let me know.

Geezer 10-29-2010 07:01 PM

AGX's have been used for Stage Rally so they should be OK for Rallycross as well. They are considered a poor mans solution. Just don't expect them to last as a street driver shock. I would not use a shorter spring as its counterintuitive. SVT springs would probably be better than stock or lowering springs since they really aren't that much lower and are a little firmer. Rally cars do not use overly stiff springs. A dedicated rally spring is specially made. They are made of larger diameter wire and have fewer coils to maximize available travel.

Lovemyhondaeater 10-29-2010 07:31 PM

Yea I'm totally wanting to go with the rallycross look as well and I had the same question. Im actually looking into having a guy at my work make me a light bar to go on my bumper for two big KC type lights. Anyone know where I can find one of those huge spoilers? I picked up some APEX 2'' drop coils. Should I not even waste my time with those?

eliaslincoln 10-29-2010 08:21 PM

as for agx as a cheaper alternative i know they are, that is what we currently use on our stage rally america (1992 sentra se-r) car i just wanted to make sure thats the right choice(im the co-driver in that car.)

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Originally Posted by Lovemyhondaeater (Post 3450452)
Yea I'm totally wanting to go with the rallycross look as well and I had the same question. Im actually looking into having a guy at my work make me a light bar to go on my bumper for two big KC type lights. Anyone know where I can find one of those huge spoilers? I picked up some APEX 2'' drop coils. Should I not even waste my time with those?

for the wing, im guessing you mean the wrc one you can get them from wings west. google it you'll find it.

Solar Black 10-30-2010 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Lovemyhondaeater (Post 3450452)
Yea I'm totally wanting to go with the rallycross look as well and I had the same question. Im actually looking into having a guy at my work make me a light bar to go on my bumper for two big KC type lights. Anyone know where I can find one of those huge spoilers? I picked up some APEX 2'' drop coils. Should I not even waste my time with those?

For that wing I would hold off. If you are trying to get into the rally cross scene you should be more worried about the suspension, tires, brakes and skidplate. You have to start small if you are gowing to rallyX and mostl likely your engine will be stock with no type of forced induction so the WRC is not needed. If you just want it for looks then go ahead, I am just trying to help.

mlbbaseball 10-30-2010 09:40 PM

for rally cross, you aren't gonna need a skid plate, a stage rally car yes, for suspension, and the money, you have 2 options. the first, and not very good, you have a ksport damper/spring. about 900, they provide 4 way dampening, and swappable springs for different rates. there are several opinions, but most go w/ about a 250 front and 225 or 250 rear ish, it depends on your setup and what you like. the next options is hotbits. they run about 1700, but they are some of the best out there. they are 2 way dampered. and they run an external resevoir. plus rebuilds are cheap. you can go w/ DMS, or ohlins, but u'll put more into your suspension than ur car is worth. your brakes need to updated next. you have better control w/ the svt brakes in the rear. the handbrake is easier to work w/. then TIRES TIRES TIRES. and lose the sways. you'll have a highly competitive setup. after that, its all about learning your car. (ie, turning the car w/ the brakes, not the steering wheel!)

eliaslincoln 10-30-2010 11:54 PM

^ good to know thanks

this is going to be an over time process. im starting with the things that will make this work, and then making things work well. I have tires and wheels and multiple suspension potentials. it just always good to get feed back.

Lovemyhondaeater 10-31-2010 02:30 AM

Well I deffinitly want to give it the rally car look. All you see in my area is a bunch of tuners. I want a different look than the norm. But I also want it to perform off road and on. I live in Arizona there's plenty of desert to play in. Thanks for the advice

Solar Black 10-31-2010 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mlbbaseball (Post 3451181)
for rally cross, you aren't gonna need a skid plate, a stage rally car yes, for suspension, and the money, you have 2 options. the first, and not very good, you have a ksport damper/spring. about 900, they provide 4 way dampening, and swappable springs for different rates. there are several opinions, but most go w/ about a 250 front and 225 or 250 rear ish, it depends on your setup and what you like. the next options is hotbits. they run about 1700, but they are some of the best out there. they are 2 way dampered. and they run an external resevoir. plus rebuilds are cheap. you can go w/ DMS, or ohlins, but u'll put more into your suspension than ur car is worth. your brakes need to updated next. you have better control w/ the svt brakes in the rear. the handbrake is easier to work w/. then TIRES TIRES TIRES. and lose the sways. you'll have a highly competitive setup. after that, its all about learning your car. (ie, turning the car w/ the brakes, not the steering wheel!)

no skidplate needed huh? Noted.

mlbbaseball 10-31-2010 05:27 PM

no, not for rally cross. rally cross is designed for completely stock cars. just like autocross. i have been doing a few rally crosses in my new SVT's. 100% stock. also, if ur looking for a skidplate, i'm selling mine. its partially funtional, and looks sick.

http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=242904

there is also more pics up on FJ. it looks sick if ur interested!

http://forums.focaljet.com/appearanc...-conxtion.html

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/k...i/P1030287.jpg


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