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focuzed1 10-23-2010 06:32 PM

Im curious how are you all doing it?
 
ok.. it seems that every time i try to take my car down the track even coming out of the hole kinda easy i break either the lower dog bone mount or the bracket the the dog bone mount mounts to. my best 60' was 2.43 and i broke the mount on that run.. even coming out really soft then nailing it in 2nd i break the mount.. i have tried the steeda mount the mac mount poly inserts in the stock mount and they all fail eventually.. what are you all doing to get your 60's down so low without breaking the mount? if i could get my 60's down that low and run my high setting i think i could get my car into the 11s.. on that run that i did a 2.43 on my low setting with a broken mount i ran a 13.86 at 114.7mph... but i am tired of fixing my car every time i want to take it to the track

chris-13 10-23-2010 07:16 PM

First do you have all three after market motor mounts installed.
front lower stress bar by FSWerks
Front Energy Suspension control arms bushings
I prefer to have Koni adjustable shocks at the rear and put em on full stiff
if you see my vids on my Flickr page you will see my car has no movement at all on take off

SMITHBOY76908 10-23-2010 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by chris-13 (Post 3445037)
First do you have all three after market motor mounts installed.
front lower stress bar by FSWerks
Front Energy Suspension control arms bushings
I prefer to have Koni adjustable shocks at the rear and put em on full stiff
if you see my vids on my Flickr page you will see my car has no movement at all on take off

Ditto.

I have all of this minus the Koni shocks. I'm hitting 2.0 60ft on drag slicks without issues. I was getting 2.2-2.1 60ft on street tires with no problems. The control arm bushings and lower stress bar worked wonders for wheel hop.

chris-13 10-23-2010 09:30 PM

Finally someone that agreees with me on the control arms bushings and lower stress bar, it pretty much eliminates wheel hop.

focusmaniaczx3 10-24-2010 04:39 AM

dude there just has to be something with it making it break those mounts. i landed 2.0 60ft times on a bone stock car except for some 18x7.5 rims with street tires. that is mounts and everything. the only thing i can think of that would cause that is that perhaps your motor/tranny is trying to twist weird somehow and that is what is causing the breakage. that bracket and mount will take an incredible amount of force when that force is just from the motor pulling against the subframe trying to spin itself around in the engine bay. but if you add a little bit of lateral twist to that force it will break it much much easier because the mount and bracket wasnt designed to be twisted. it could be one of your top motor mounts is too soggy to take the punishment. i found out that if you have a poly mount on the driver side and on the tranny and a factory on the passenger side that the poly mount (the metal mount itself) will break on the driver side the first time you snag a gear too hard. its like the soggy mount is letting the motor twist and give on that side but since the other side is so hard it doesnt give and all that pressure being exerted ends up breaking the mount. perhaps you have something similar going on. i really dont know though, im just grasping at straws here pretty much.

focuzed1 10-24-2010 06:10 AM

i do have all the mounts and the ingalls stiffy.. i do not have the other stuff that you are talking about though. and i can say when i have to change it after it breaks it is a job and a half.. it doesnt want to line up very well at all..

sporadic 10-24-2010 10:02 AM

With your kind of power I'd just use 3 solid mounts and poly control arm bushings.

I run 2 poly mounts and one solid mount with some poly isolators and get absolutely no wheel hop.
14 runs the other day on drag radials, including a few 5K RPM with no clutch slipping and still no wheel hop (just some spinning).

But seriously with your torque I'd run 3 solid mounts with no isolators.
I think you will easily contort the poly material and allow engine twisting.

WitchCitySVT 10-24-2010 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sporadic (Post 3445427)
With your kind of power I'd just use 3 solid mounts and poly control arm bushings.

I run 2 poly mounts and one solid mount with some poly isolators and get absolutely no wheel hop.
14 runs the other day on drag radials, including a few 5K RPM with no clutch slipping and still no wheel hop (just some spinning).

But seriously with your torque I'd run 3 solid mounts with no isolators.
I think you will easily contort the poly material and allow engine twisting.

I agree. I know you DD yours, but if your breaking them constantly, then you may want to get a solid mount to swap out for when you go to the track or for the season. You'll still be changing them on a regular, but atleast you you won't have to keep buying mounts.

focuzed1 10-24-2010 10:19 AM

i know i have messed up every poly mount on the lower dog bone mount i have used.. but the only problem with the solid mounts is i drive this car daily.. wouldnt that be too harsh for daily driving?

focuzed1 10-24-2010 10:24 AM

i have been designing a new bracket made from steel that mounts all the way around to the front of the tranny mounting to about 6 bolts that all mount to the block.. then finding a new mounting point on the k member.. i figured if i just ran the steeda upper mounts and the solid lower mount with my new bracket it wouldnt be too bad.. and i doubt very seriously that i will break the bracket i am making. i just dont understand how so many other people are launching alot harder than me and not breaking stuff.. but i dont think i am breaking it on the launch. i think i breaking it on my 1st-2nd gear shift and i getting too much wheel hop.. i would love to get some traction bars i know they would help but i would have to remake my down pipe if i did that.. its in the way of the middle bar for the lakewood traction bar setups.. i am thinking of when i get the money back up i will go to topspeed and get them to make me a custom set of traction bars..


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