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WeeAsp 09-23-2007 09:35 PM

STREET RACING - A Rant and a WARNING
 
All -

Myself and other Mods have been accused of being Nazis when it comes to our supervision of the racing forum on the whole.

As enthusiasts, we are certainly understanding and supportive of "spirited" driving.

At the same time, we have a social responsibility to ourselves and the rest of the online FF community to ensure that we are held above the typical "ricer mentality".

Like it or not, regardless of age or experience, when you line up at a stop light on a public road, you cast a shadow of derision on ALL OF US.

I am not trying to sound like some old curmudgeon or like anyone's parents, but the truth of the matter is that perception is reality.

If some of us, as part of this online community, participate or continue to participate in illegal racing then we ALL suffer.

Some will disagree with this position, but stop before you drop the hammer at a light or on any other road and ask yourself a couple of questions:

1. What does it prove?

2. If my ego is THAT important, then maybe I should think about backing it up with something beyond folklore?

3. Am I or my car REALLY that good?

4. Is the risk worth the pay-off of a "good story"?

Ask yourself these questions. In addition, ask yourself what is the fear/concern of taking my very capable vehicle to a sanctioned racing event?

If you are afraid, then there is doubt.

So, pony up and show us what you've got! Money isn't a concern. For a day at the drag stip or the AX course, you will spend less than if you went to dinner at Taco Bell and a movie.

You have something (i.e. a trophy, prize money, or both) to PROVE that you aren't blowing smoke up everyone's hind end.

Posers are what they are and at the end of the day, they are the ones who look in the mirror and have to confront their own inferiority to TRUE RACERS.

I am not so naive to think that because of this post or any other that street racing will not continue...

At the same time, ask yourself "why?"

And why do I want to be part of this "subculture". Notice that "SUB" is a key component to this term.

I pledge this to all in the FF community:

1. After this message, I will NOT preach

2. I WILL lock and remove any references posted to this forum concerning street racing that violate the rules set forth

3. I WILL look down my nose at any and ALL who do not have the intestinal fortitude to REALLY show what they are made of and put themselves and their equipment on the line in a SANCTIONED racing event.

If these things are not acceptable to you and others who chose to race on the street, then so be it.

Just understand that you are not now, NOR EVER true racers in the definition or the term.

Too many ply their trade now, and before you, to have their practice and passion besmirched by idiots.

OK, I'm done...

miniboon 09-24-2007 07:45 AM

Hear Hear! [cheers]

SLVRbulletSVT03 09-24-2007 08:18 AM

Very Very Very well said, probably the most justified, respectable Rant i've ever read.....

Midnight_DevilX 09-24-2007 08:20 AM

Couldn't agree more...you kinda remind of the the guy from tokyo drift that drives the Veilside RX-7 and teaches the main character how to drift...

1turbofocus 09-24-2007 08:20 AM

Well im sorry this is the BIGGEST bunch of BS i have read about street racing it goes to prove that you dont like it but have never done it yet you break driving laws all the time

You SOUND like you sit on your polished throne and like you said "I WILL look down my nose at any and ALL" The rules say not to talk about "street racing" do we really need you .01 about your opinions about it and how you feel like your better then those that do street race

Im guessing you never go above the speed limit? allways come to a 100% stop at all stop signs, obay ALL trafic laws NO YOU DONT no one does but do I look down my nose at you , what makes you better going 5 over the limit or me going 50 over the limit were both breaking the same laws

Now to answer your questions , did you know the first drag race as well as Nascar race even held was done on the street and for almost 50 years (drag racing) was kept that way

"If some of us, as part of this online community, participate or continue to participate in illegal racing then we ALL suffer"

**How am I suffering from you street racing?

1. What does it prove?
**I have nothing to prove to anyone only to my self , some people do this for the money

2. If my ego is THAT important, then maybe I should think about backing it up with something beyond folklore?
**You keep thinking its an ego thing and it isnt , not for some anyway
Folklore ? ? ? you need to get out more

3. Am I or my car REALLY that good?
** YES !

4. Is the risk worth the pay-off of a "good story"?
** Again a "good story" what is that , true street racing is rarely talked about dont group some kid out here trying to out run a honda with nothing done to either car known as a "kill" as street racing IT ISNT

I go and have gone to the track events and got the trophy and the winning money that doesent even cover the cost of fuel let alone tires or expences getting there before people got to know my car I could go 20 miles and pick up 1000 a night or more

TRUE street racing is serious buisness with serious cars and in most cases done under somewhat controled conditions with guys with some common sence and most of the time for big money 1000 to 10,000 $ or pink slips where do you think Pinks started ?

This "kill" crap starting off from a street light is whats dangerous done with unqualified drivers in cars with little to nothing done to them in an area covered with innocent bistanders

There 2 TOTALLY Diff things that shouldnt be grouped togather but for safety on the Forums it needs to be done and that is understandable for liability and safety

Now saying all that 99.9% of the people that are on FF dont need to be racing on the street , streets are to crouded now and to many onlookers to be hurt it isnt like 20 years ago do your racing on the track is the best and safest for everyone

But I sure wont be the one to throw the first stone ! And I wont look down my nose at them either

Tom

SLVRbulletSVT03 09-24-2007 08:51 AM

Tom does also have some good points in his response I also agree with. I think the generally, "true" street racing, as he stated, from many many years ago, has dwindled away, and given way to what most people know as the "street racing" we know of today. The street racing of today, 95% of the time, involves "hot head punk kids" who own Honda's, Imports, and so on and so on who just race from street light to street light. The main point of both the first response and Tom's is, Safety, and Organization. Times have changed, and conditions have changed, and now there really is a "negativity" to street racing that has changed as well.

Im a huge supporter of "keeping it on the track" and not on the streets. I stand by that, and always will.

13B-Courier 09-24-2007 09:24 AM

Not everyone has the time to go to the drag strip or track every week just to make a little run either. When people "street race" they normally go to a deserted area in a group with people looking out for other cars/police. I don't consider it to be dangerous unless you are out in front of the mall with a 10 second car racing through traffic or some crap. But whatever this sounds lame to me. If there isn't anyone out on the road I don't see the harm but that is just me. I don't even do it but I see no problem with it.

NikiterZTS 09-24-2007 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13B-Courier (Post 1769309)
Not everyone has the time to go to the drag strip or track every week just to make a little run either. When people "street race" they normally go to a deserted area in a group with people looking out for other cars/police. I don't consider it to be dangerous unless you are out in front of the mall with a 10 second car racing through traffic or some crap. But whatever this sounds lame to me. If there isn't anyone out on the road I don't see the harm but that is just me. I don't even do it but I see no problem with it.

good point my friend, good point....you made it really clear


oh snap Tom street races lol
jokes

WeeASP sorry for calling a "thread Nazi", i never thought ur going to make a thread about this

SpeedOften 09-24-2007 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 13B-Courier (Post 1769309)
When people "street race" they normally go to a deserted area in a group with people looking out for other cars/police. I don't consider it to be dangerous unless you are out in front of the mall with a 10 second car racing through traffic or some crap. But whatever this sounds lame to me. If there isn't anyone out on the road I don't see the harm but that is just me. I don't even do it but I see no problem with it.


Althought they were caught doing this by state police.. "street Racers" here in Norfolk, Virginia would sort of block off a section of highway late at night by having a car run a mile up in front with a radio and then three cars (3 lanes) blocking all lanes goin 5mph under the speedlimit in the way back allowing 2 or three cars in the middle of it all to race. There are no exits on onramps where this was happening... but they did all get caught

blitz1027 09-24-2007 10:42 AM

Well said WeeAsp. Racing should be kept on the track and not on the streets.


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