|11-26-2013 11:06 AM|
|11-26-2013 07:31 AM|
I bought a 2005 Focus sedan for my daughter
I found out it was repossessed and I only got one key
So I had 4 programmed keys made and one dumb key
When the dealer does this the one missing key held by the former owner will no longer work
one key for me, one for daughter, one key somewhere inside the car, one spare key and one dumb key somewhere on the outside
I do not have to worry that my daughter is stuck someplace OR the former owner sees the car and drives off in it
|11-25-2013 09:19 PM|
If the car does not scream to thieves 'steal me!' then take the chip out of the key and tape it to inside of steering column covers or on column so that it is within one inch of the transponder ring, then take the old key and cut a second cheap old school dumb key for like $3. As long as the chip is within scanning distance of the PATS ring, the car will start and run all day long with normal dumb non-chipped keys. You will still have normal old school security of a locked ignition, just not the disabling PATS does. Keep your mouth shut and don't tell your friends, the thieves will think you have the PATS enabled still. Quickest $80 you'll ever make.
Some few really kick-ass locksmiths CAN program chipped keys.
|11-25-2013 06:03 PM|
|10-05-2012 06:27 PM|
I have a Ford transit Connect. The dealer cannot even cut keys. Only their supplier [Motorcraft?] can do it
While keys may be expensive
I have a 'dumb' key hidden on the outside someplace and a 'real' key hidden on the inside someplace. Two spare keys at home.
No matter what, I can get home rather try to figure out how to tow a car out of an airport garage with a circular ramp.
|10-05-2012 05:45 PM|
With the current shop labor rates (at least everywhere I've seen), that's less than an hour's worth - and I've yet to see a shop that charges less than .5 hrs. for anything.
I'm sure I'll whine if I manage to lose a key B4 I get around to getting a third (Car came with two). So far I just bought a second fob so at least I'd have two of them. It's one of those things you tend to put off until it's too late, 'cause you don't need it TODAY....
My REAL whine about shop rates is the sad fact that in the last 30 plus years, MOST of the increase in rates has gone to the expenses of simply maintaining a shop facility - NOT to the people doing the work.... Mechanics used to get approx. 1/3rd of the shop rate in pay, now it's down to approx. 1/5th, with a FEW being lucky enough to pocket 1/4. And the largest cost increase is insurance, since lawsuits are the "Get Rich Quick" scheme of the era....
Proprietary hardware & software to diagnose & maintain vehicles costs the shops tens of thousands, we're lucky with the OBD laws that "generic" codes can be read with "generic" equipment - NOT the case when dealing with ANYTHING other than automobiles sold in the USA, or ones that use that standard for convenience....
Take Care, end of "rant" (grin)
|10-04-2012 08:12 PM|
|kodpkd||Thank you for the info.... You are correct the Jag key fob is different than the new Focus remote key. It is all about security. I think I will get a 3rd key in case I loose a key. BUT,,,,,,,, I still think it's a total rip off when a tech geek gets $80 to program a key for a car you just spent $$$$$$$$$$$ on for 30 seconds of work..|
|10-04-2012 12:41 PM|
kodpkd - sounds like your Jag has a key with a built in remote, like the key fob that comes with the Focus.
THAT is easier to program to the car, did an extra for my Focus and all you need is ALL the fobs you want to use on hand at the same time.
The Focus KEY on the other hand, has an RFID chip inside, and the car's computer has to recognize that chip to allow the car to start.
The programming assumption, as mentioned above, is that anyone with TWO keys already in the system is likely to be an owner or authorized user - so an additional key can be added by that person to the list.
If it was easy, it wouldn't be much of a "security" system...
|10-04-2012 11:39 AM|
|kodpkd||It isnt the same car,,,,,,, But the same BS.. I have a 97 Jag.. Bought an extra key, ask the Jag dealer what it takes to program it.. "OH, a tech needs to use a computer to program it" $80... BS! I found online.... 1 click blink the lights, 2 pushes, done..... $80 is total BS,,,, at least for the Jag.. Maybe the Focus is the same..|
|06-01-2007 07:37 PM|
You can also find the odd locksmith that will program keys cheaper than a dealership, so it's not like you only have one choice of places to go for programming. Call around and get some prices and find out if the locksmith can program them. Only a few locksmiths invest in the programming machines.
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