|10-14-2005 11:29 AM|
|viney266||Thats right !! Show the wagon some love !!!|
|10-14-2005 11:27 AM|
I think there's rather long-standing criticism of EPA mileage estimates. Unusual about the VWTDs though, I thought generally the numbers Overestimate what most people get.
It would seem odd to only get about high 30s in a diesel, since certain gas cars can get that with clever tactics and a feather-foot. I always thought they were up closer to 50, but I've never had one so I couldn't be sure.
|10-14-2005 11:27 AM|
|Tbones00SE||People are getting way less than advertised with Hybrids because they are driving them like normal cars instead of like hybrids. The two biggest factors are hard acceleration and hard braking. With hard acceleration you force the gas engine to engage much sooner than it should. With hard braking you override the regenerative braking system and instead you use the conventional braking system which just wastes the potential energy as heat.|
|10-14-2005 10:21 AM|
I've heard people on the news complaining about the Toyota Prius too that is doesn't get nearly the mpg advertised. Most people get half what's advertised.
I think their mpg numbers are based on going down a 10% grade hill at 50 mph.
Oh, and the Scion xB looks more like a Van than a station wagon.
|10-14-2005 09:18 AM|
Those numbers for the VWs are completely unrealistic! If I was only getting 35/42 in my TDI, I would be friggin pissed. Once they are broken in a bit, consumption drops a lot, with a majority of people getting 50+ MPG combined city and highway.
And heck, my nearly 5 year old VR6 GTI gets about 34 MPG on the highway... The Focus is, umm, not quite as good.
|10-13-2005 04:07 PM|
The Vibe and Matrix are classified as Station wagons... lol
"Among station wagons, the manual Pontiac Vibe and Toyota Corolla Matrix are tops, each with 30 mpg in the city and 36 on the highway. The most fuel efficient minivan is the Honda Odyssey, 20 mpg in the city and 28 on the highway."
Honda Insight (hybrid) Manual 60/66 Automatic 57/56
Mini Cooper Manual 28/36 Automatic 26/34
Volkswagen New Beetle (diesel) Manual 37/44 Automatic 35/42
Volkswagen Golf (diesel) Manual 37/44
Volkswagen Jetta (diesel) Automatic 35/42
Toyota Prius (hybrid) Automatic 60/51
Hyundai Elantra Manual 27/34
Hyundai Sonata Manual 24/34 Automatic 24/33
SMALL STATION WAGONS
Pontiac Vibe Manual 30/36
Toyota Matrix Manual 30/36
Scion xB Automatic 30/34
MIDSIZE STATION WAGONS
Ford Focus Station Wagon Automatic 26/32 Manual 26/34
STANDARD PICKUP TRUCKS
Ford Ranger Pickup 2WD Manual 24/29 Automatic 21/26
Mazda B2300 2WD Manual 24/29 Automatic 21/26
Toyota Tacoma 2WD Automatic 21/26
Chevrolet G1500/2500 Chevy Express 2WD Automatic 15/20
GMC G1500/2500 Savana 2WD Automatic 15/20
Chevrolet G1500/2500 Chevy 2WD Automatic 15/19
GMC G1500/2500 Savana 2WD Automatic 15/19
Honda Odyssey 2WD Automatic 20/28
SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES
Ford Escape Hybrid FWD Automatic 36/31
Ford Escape FWD Manual 24/29
Mazda Tribute 2WD Manual 24/29
|10-13-2005 03:28 PM|
|MISVTfocus||At least ford made it on there.|
|10-13-2005 02:01 PM|
Top 10 Fuel Efficient 06s
Not sure if the Repost Police will come after me here, it sounds kinda familiar. But in case it is new news: