|10-31-2015 02:50 AM|
Yep,modding is for what makes the owner happy but if a budget and time are concerns and you want to go fast and stretch you hard earned dollar further then start with something with a little more oomph and go from there.
I've been down both roads with modding cars for performance first and looks second and it is harder to start on a lower limb when a better starting point can be had sooner and for less cash outlay.
I bought a stock '93 Mitsu Eclipse GSX in '95 and while I thought it was quick out of the box with 195hp and high 14s in the 1/4 I didn't realize with a little information for easy it was to turn into a 1/4 mile monster (ran mid 12s at sea level,13 flats up here at 5800ft) which I did on a modest budget and experimentation since some of the tech was new or hadn't been tried and for under $5000 I had a 400+hp beast with simple bolt-ons and including new wheels and tires.
FF to '99 and picked up a '00 Integra Type R with 195hp and in the neighborhood of 2500lbs it was a high 14 second car too and a tad more quick than my Eclipse on the autox course but when it came to making power ala the supercharger route (turbo would have changed the dynamics of the power delivery too much) it was a bit more pricey and I only got about a 60hp bump and a half second in the 1/4 but the car was definitely quicker and responsive on the autox course but in a much tougher class with my power adder.
The DSM was really simple with just a turbo upgrade,fuel pump,$100 manual boost controller and re-wire,hard IC piping (still was on the stock IC),better clutch and a Apex S-AFC which back then was about a $250 unit and netted over 100% hp bump over stock.
The Type R had a better clutch,JRSC,intake,3" Thermal research catback,high flow cat,header and an AEM engine management setup but still loved the car even tho'much slower than the Eclipse the R was simply more fun to drive overall.
I really enjoyed all my cars and modding them but admittedly if I would've held back a little I might have gotten a house sooner but now married and with that house my priorities have changed and my car attention has been sedated a little and am content with my STI and simple mods for now and I treat the Focus for what it is to my wife and I which is our main get around town car which is good on the MPGs since our other rides struggle to get to 20mpg on a good day.
That isn't to say i won't throw a few bucks at the Focus here and there since I like to look good even going slow. Next up is an ST spoiler (have it just need it body color matched) and midwing and Ti headlamps sometime after the holidays.
I actually like the ST conversion sedans since let's face it in stock trim the sedans are begging for something to look less like the "mom grocery getter" and making them a little more racy looking transforms them almost to a different car more so than a modded hatch.
|10-30-2015 02:37 AM|
|papaacer||Lol I love hearing the "should have gone ST" phrase because it's just not applicable to everyone. Also, ever heard the term built not bought? That is a term a lot of car people hold near and dear. Car modding is worth it, if it's your hobby. Also, if you can afford it. Which means, sometimes, it needs to be done slowly. Anyone can just go buy an ST. Meanwhile, my STedan and Mike's and Bill's all have been transformed to be STs cosmetically and Mikes in the drivetrain. Bill and I, since we have our visual representation of what an ST sedan would look like, want to follow suit with either a drive train swap, or turbocharged build on our NAs. It will happen, but car modifications take time.|
|10-29-2015 02:02 PM|
It depends on how you interpret modding.
People buying the SE and then throwing 10k on it to add performance... Waste of time and money, should have gone with the ST right away...
But adding your personal touches is definitely worth it. Changing suspension to sharpen handling, adding nice rims, and a great sounding exhaust are definitely personal touches that add a lot to a car. Many tweaks don't cost a lot of money, but do take time and patience. In the end you have a car unlike any other though.
So while I would rather go with the highest performance edition from the factory, and not throw my money on crazy aftermarket engine performance mods, small personal touches are definitely a plus in my book.
|10-29-2015 10:30 AM|
|10-07-2015 01:21 PM|
|2000Red||Are mods worth it? You might get 10 cents on the dollar if you're lucky when you sell. But modding is not about making money IMO. I like machinery that works! Works well and works as a unit. I work on a lot of machinery every day. Much of it is a constant battle to keep running right. I like modding because it allows me to select the improvements that positively affect the appearance and performance of my personal machine--that make it run the way I want it to. At the end of the day, when I get into my car and drive, it makes me smile when it does what I want it to do in a way that's exciting and pleasing to me. These days, things that make me smile are worth quite a bit!|
|10-07-2015 09:36 AM|
With 200k on the ticker I'm not gonna bolt anything else on. Might give it a heart attack.
|10-07-2015 06:54 AM|
|10-07-2015 12:27 AM|
|dchawk81||I don't personally go in for it beyond maybe a better exhaust from stock when the original gets old and rusted out. Example my Navigator had a relatively small quiet but restrictive system that finally needed replaced, so I went with 3" Magnaflow tubing and their straight through muffler.|
|10-06-2015 11:55 AM|
|a car nut||
As for whether or not a modification is "worth it" depends upon the individual definition of what "worth it" means to them. As for myself, I do modifications to "correct" issues with my vehicles, not to "dress them up."
Currently, I'm working out the "bugs" of modification of my MK3 to MK3 ST front brakes on my SE due to the famous issue of warping front rotors. The benefit of the ST brakes is larger surface area of the pad, improved ability of the rotor to resist heat build up under hard use (due to larger rotor, approx. 1.5"), possible reduced stopping distance in panic stop and wider choice of performance pad materials. Sadly, larger front brakes are not available as a factory option. All of my MK1 Focus were updated to SVT brakes front and rear and suspension upgrades to the sedan and ZX3 were done as well.
Big brake kits are great, but, very expensive and one may not get the benefits of the larger front brakes unless you are into track days and/or motor cross. I'm into practical solutions to an issue that the factory has created without spending huge amounts of money. Safety is my thing and if I can make the vehicle safer without spending a fortune on it, I will. Just my two cents.....
|09-11-2015 04:09 PM|
|felixthecat||So I take it, you don't like GM products? For me it'd depend on the category of car your looking for. Ford has it covered w/ the Fist/Fost/RS, Mustang's & super duty's. Chrysler has the SRT's & Viper's & GM has it covered in the Mid size's,Camaro's, Vette's & Cadillac has the ats-v & cts-v. For a 1/2 it's pretty much a toss up= they're all pretty good.|
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