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05-18-2005 05:24 PM
RB
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Originally posted by pio
what i like about wrc is that they use real cars...
I love WRC, and think these are the best drivers in the world. They typcially do very very well in the ROC (Race of Champions,which is NOT the IROC - ROC last year included every major series champion - NASCAR, F1, INDY, CART, WRC, F3000, ALMS, etc). But hen so do the NASCAR guys - Jeff Gordon won two years ago, but he is a WRC fan too.

But I do beg to differ that WRC uses real cars. They are about as real as NASCAR cars. They cost over $500,000 and nothing is used off of the stock car, not the chassis, body panels, stereo knobs, nothin. They are ultra high tech. Think about a 300BHP car (limited by rules) AWD car that can accelerate to 60 in under 4 seconds, stop and handle as well as any racing sports car, plus can then get the crap knocked out of it on totally rutted and rock strewn one lane gravel corridors.

But I must admit, they look real! In fact, I liked the "image" of the WRC Focus RS so much it is the reason I bought my SVT.
05-12-2005 09:07 PM
ToTalXS
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Originally posted by dam3816

The real issue asa to why American's do not watch rallying is simply that you can not go somewhere and sit in one spot and watch it. Also the winner is not always the first guy to get to the end and you may have to wait an hour while they determine the winner.

from the right seat
dam3816
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ding ding ding!!!!!! with no clear winner its kind of anti climactic to wait for the results...and we are far too fat n lazy to move around....lol....good points you had...
-Shawn
05-12-2005 08:44 AM
dam3816
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Originally posted by osunick
US laws are probably a big part of why there isn't a US stage of the WRC. If you haven't noticed, the WRC cars are road legal in the European Union, you can see that they all have license plates and actually drive on public roads from stage to stage. It's actually a part of the competition, and you are penalized twice as much for being early to a stage as you are for being late, you can get busted at a random checkpoint along the way between stages, which means that drivers have to go the speed limit without going over or under, instead of racing to the next stage and waiting 100 feet from time control.
All cars on a Stage Rally ae licensed for use on a public road, that is not the issue.

And insurance has not got that much to do with it. Yes the SCCA just dumped Stage Rallying for what they said was insurance reasons, (cost of insuring stage rallying was driving the cost for other forms of racing up to much).

However Rally America has taken over Stage Rallying in America and are doing a fine job.

Also years ago the WRC did come to both Canada and USA. Look for The Olympus Rally in the late 80's, this was the USA event.

The real issue asa to why American's do not watch rallying is simply that you can not go somewhere and sit in one spot and watch it. Also the winner is not always the first guy to get to the end and you may have to wait an hour while they determine the winner.

from the right seat
dam3816
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05-10-2005 05:08 PM
[]wave
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Originally posted by osunick
US laws are probably a big part of why there isn't a US stage of the WRC. If you haven't noticed, the WRC cars are road legal in the European Union, you can see that they all have license plates and actually drive on public roads from stage to stage. It's actually a part of the competition, and you are penalized twice as much for being early to a stage as you are for being late, you can get busted at a random checkpoint along the way between stages, which means that drivers have to go the speed limit without going over or under, instead of racing to the next stage and waiting 100 feet from time control.
same as in the US rallyies???
05-10-2005 03:12 PM
mustang2focus82 cricket?
I usually fall asleep after the 10th lap of nascar and wake up just in time for 30 more laps till the finish.
What the WRC needs is more exposure. more advertising. kinda like music artists promoters who pay radio stations to jive and play the same song over and over and over till it becomes cool and people succumb to this propaganda. Ok maybe not that much promotion. But it wouldnt hurt to have a commercial here and there showing the rally cars flipping and tumbling down hills and off mountains rolling over spectators and going from 140mph to a dead stop with the help of a big boulder...sorry been playing too many rally games.
05-10-2005 03:02 PM
osunick US laws are probably a big part of why there isn't a US stage of the WRC. If you haven't noticed, the WRC cars are road legal in the European Union, you can see that they all have license plates and actually drive on public roads from stage to stage. It's actually a part of the competition, and you are penalized twice as much for being early to a stage as you are for being late, you can get busted at a random checkpoint along the way between stages, which means that drivers have to go the speed limit without going over or under, instead of racing to the next stage and waiting 100 feet from time control.
05-10-2005 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by bwojdyla
My initial thought on why americans don't like WRC is because we (as an aggregate) are exclusionists and don't like foreigners winning in any of our events. The most popular sports in the world have players from the global community and we pretty much ignore them. Soccer, F1, WRC, Cricket - HUGE sports. nobody in america likes them. But get a field of players that is basically north american and we'll watch the crap out of it. Baseball, football, nascar, NHRA, basketball. So, I think WRC isn't big in the US because Americans as a whole are jingoists.
I disagree

We already have so many motor sport races ; rally is VERY, VERY expensive
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to class down the roads for 3days+ ... plus one of the biggest reasons it's not popular is the insurance liability.

have you watched a WRC event? (yes, duh) ... see how close those spectators get?


things aren't like that over here ... especially insurance wise.


insurance for american rallies is one reason why the reg. prices are so high
05-09-2005 12:17 AM
rockthezx3 I love the WRC, I watch it whenever it's on, which is like once a month.
05-06-2005 01:57 PM
finalley
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Originally posted by fat pat
i think the focus should resemble the wrc focus without the 34mm restictor plate
I'm half way there....If I could just find a reasonably priced way to acheive AWD for the SVT...
05-05-2005 12:32 PM
brawls43 I think another reason why WRC isn't very popular is the multi-day events with the different stages. I think most Americans don't have the attention span, we want what we want now. But I still can't figure out the NASCAR draw. I think its more about the availability and money that's in it now. Personally I think Trans-Am racing and Grand-Am racing are WAY better then NASCAR. They look like normal cars, and most still run big V8s. Its a shame so many good racing events don't get enough coverage in the US or even the chance to run enough races on US soil. No matter what the event though, its SO much better in person!
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