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12-09-2013 10:07 AM
swansong I think they could (and should). Rumors have been for 350 hp for the RS. Without knowing much about the 2.3L, I have no idea how much work it would take to reach that number. Would it be intake/exhaust? Tune? Intercooling? Cam profile? Different turbo? Who knows.

Most of the limitations on the 1.6L and 2.0L are due to the tiny turbos that they use. The 2.3L uses a twin-scroll, but other than that fact I know nothing about it.

Of course there's always the argument that the Mustang should have the most powerful version of the engine. Might make some people upset to know that the lowly Focus has a more powerful 2.3 engine.

We'll have to wait and see.
12-09-2013 09:54 AM
mac.mogul If they modify the 2.3 to make over 300 hp for the Mustang, it won't make that much power in anything else.

Its the same reason you don't see the 2.0 with 252hp in any other car except the Focus ST or the 1.6 with 197hp in anything but the Fiesta ST. If the Mustang is sold with a much more powerful 2.3, it won't be that powerful in anything else and the 2.3 is more or less the last hope for an RS Focus.

Unless Ford wants to buck the trend and put a generic "company" motor in the RS (which they've never done)
12-08-2013 08:23 PM
swansong
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Well, if that's the case then I suppose we won't be getting a Focus RS any time soon.
Why would that be? I thought it was all but a certainty that we would see the RS in 2015/2016?
12-06-2013 09:24 AM
mac.mogul Well, if that's the case then I suppose we won't be getting a Focus RS any time soon.
12-06-2013 04:04 AM
Kabigon
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In its currently reported state, the 2.3 is more powerful than the Hyundai 2.0t used in the Genesis and will likely be more efficient as well.
I still hold that Ford will not change the output of the 2.3 when it goes into the Mustang.

Another thing you need to consider is that this engine will be a global engine. Pumping more power into it will increase its CO2 emissions and increase the amount of tax you would need to pay in order to own it. The Focus ST has an emission rating of 169g/km so I would assume the 2.3 will be slightly more in its current iteration.

Bumping up the power would likely scare away younger buyers in other countries who are fiercely taxed for performance vehicles. That's not what the Mustang is about.
Ford has announced that the Mustang 2.3L turbo will deliver "more than 305 horsepower and 300 lb-ft of torque".
11-27-2013 02:36 PM
mac.mogul Who knows? :shrug:
Some rumors would suggest that the ecoboost won't make it into the Mustang until 2016 along with revised 5.0 and 3.7 to fit the new 10 speed transmissions.

Another reason its surprising to me that this will be placed in a Lincoln so soon with the standard 6 speed.
11-27-2013 01:42 PM
GhiaFan Europe press are all stating that the 2.3L EcoBoost in the Mustang will be rated at 310hp.
I guess we will find out December 5.

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11-27-2013 09:09 AM
mac.mogul In its currently reported state, the 2.3 is more powerful than the Hyundai 2.0t used in the Genesis and will likely be more efficient as well. I still hold that Ford will not change the output of the 2.3 when it goes into the Mustang.

Another thing you need to consider is that this engine will be a global engine. Pumping more power into it will increase its CO2 emissions and increase the amount of tax you would need to pay in order to own it. The Focus ST has an emission rating of 169g/km so I would assume the 2.3 will be slightly more in its current iteration.

Bumping up the power would likely scare away younger buyers in other countries who are fiercely taxed for performance vehicles. That's not what the Mustang is about.
11-26-2013 10:32 AM
Kabigon
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You can look at examples from Fusion/Edge/Escape/Explorer as well and the option list is the same. All the base models have an optional EcoBoost engine that makes performs roughly the same as the non-turbo counterpart while returning better fuel economy.

I see no reason why Ford would not apply this formula to the Mustang as well.
Because it's a Mustang (and not a family car), the same set of rules may not apply.

A high performance turbo 4 in a lightweight, rear wheel drive car may attract a number of enthusiasts that otherwise may not be interested in a "pony car".
11-26-2013 09:53 AM
swansong
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Car & Driver is the automotive equivalent of "The Enquirer"
Just about to say something along those lines. Their Mustang "Reveal" in last month's issue shows that they love to claim fiction as fact and that they know everything. The "photos" in their article were clearly renderings, and likely incorrect at that. A number of differences have been noted between C&D's rendering and Chazcron's (via mustang6g.com) CAD-based renderings. But they're 95% similar so close enough.

Stablemate Road and Track once reported 350 hp for the 2.3L, and I've seen anywhere from 275 to 305 to 310 to 350 for hp estimates. So who knows really.
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