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07-12-2014 04:51 AM
Spinner there's a massive grille on the ST bumper to let in plenty of air and the bumper could not possibly rub the hood since it doesn't end at the gap, it's connected to a black plastic piece that goes under the hood.

http://www.focusst.org/forum/attachm...039.859670.jpg

it's entirely aesthetic.
07-12-2014 04:02 AM
novus I like cleaner the lines. Looks less like fitment issues.
07-11-2014 04:11 PM
suss6052
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Originally Posted by Spinner View Post
Do you guys really want that gap so much? i personally think the replica looks better not having it. less gap makes for a much smoother look and isn't that what buying the part is all about? aesthetics.
i'm not trying to make my S model look like an ST. i just prefer the style of it's bumper. again, just my opinion, there was a lot of emphasis on something i don't understand.
The gap is intentional as a part of the tolerance stacks as well as for allowing airflow through the engine bay. Closing the gap looks worse, and it's likely to to cause the bumper cover to rub on the corners of the hood.

You have the exact same gap on the base MK3 fascia as on the ST but you don't notice it as much on the basis of the center grille.

Also reducing the gap makes the car look like the Fiesta ST, or the new Focus ST, which looks awkward imo.

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It could be that the front bumper and insulator are also different then the N/A they have more of a curve shape and could be a little bit lower.
No, the hood, headlamps, and fenders are all identical across the model range, and from the S-ST3 all have the same exact gap between the hood and the bumper cover with o.e.m. parts.
07-11-2014 01:52 PM
Spinner Do you guys really want that gap so much? i personally think the replica looks better not having it. less gap makes for a much smoother look and isn't that what buying the part is all about? aesthetics.
i'm not trying to make my S model look like an ST. i just prefer the style of it's bumper. again, just my opinion, there was a lot of emphasis on something i don't understand.
11-13-2013 04:01 AM
Seminoles It could be that the front bumper and insulator are also different then the N/A they have more of a curve shape and could be a little bit lower.
11-12-2013 11:00 PM
suss6052
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@suss

You do realize that the quality of the pictures that were posted are not the greatest. So you're making assumptions on pictures that are sub-par. Wait until OP gets clear pictures, then state your opinion.

Not to mention, you're coming from a MK3 that had a ST swap. Not to mention, own a ST. Of course you're going to nit pick.

Quit raining on the mans parade.
I'm not raining on anyone's parade.

It's quite clear that even if the pictures were not the greatest that there is sufficient evidence to point out the issues with the parts in question. The area around the cover is one such issue, but that's the nature of mixing a used and possibly damaged o.e. piece and a pattern or replica part.

If no one tried the parts other than the ebay ad then it would not be a known quantity, but in their picture it looks like there were fewer fit issues that might be associated with the shop rather than the parts, although there is still the issue of the disappearing gap.


I received much harsher criticism for even thinking of doing the swap let alone after I did it, but that's not why I critiqued his car. There are a few glaring issues with the fit that anyone who knows the car would notice, but might not be obvious to the lay person. And given how much better the parts seem to fit in the supplier's photograph there appears to be some problem with how it was aligned. I'm sure some of this could be better judged and adjusted in person, but like I said before if he likes it then that's all that matters.

It is not a coincidence that I would be interested in seeing how this turned out having followed the first conversion out of necessity (a front end collision in that case that wiped out the entire front end) v.s. mine out of minor necessity, due to damaging the cover a second time right after getting the car back from the shop finally.

Constructive criticism is beneficial and positive. If everyone always agreed with me then I'd be worried that they weren't being honest and that both of us would be wrong. I have not said the o.p. should not have done this conversion ever, and although I'm not as fond of pattern or replica parts in some cases they do have their place. I just wish for his sake that he will be reunited with the car sooner rather than later so he can judge the work he ordered from afar.
11-12-2013 10:43 PM
novus @suss

You do realize that the quality of the pictures that were posted are not the greatest. So you're making assumptions on pictures that are sub-par. Wait until OP gets clear pictures, then state your opinion.

Not to mention, you're coming from a MK3 that had a ST swap. Not to mention, own a ST. Of course you're going to nit pick.

Quit raining on the mans parade.
11-12-2013 07:26 PM
lstat
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Originally Posted by suss6052 View Post
I'm glad you're happy with it and were willing to take the risk to be the first to install these replica parts, because now there's a lower cost alternative for those who want the look but don't want to spend o.e. money for o.e. parts.

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Thanks for the photos for comparison. Unfortunately somebody someday was going to be the Guinea Pig on this bumper, I hate that it isn't perfect but at the same time I dont mind. Theres a reason this community is as big and helpful as it is, right? Once I get the car out here to California I am going to see if there is any way to get all the gaps fixed, they aren't terrible though. To anybody that doesn't know the car it will all more than likely go unnoticed, damn our watchful eyes..

By the way, I followed your thread when you had your bumper swapped which turned out great on FG. I had a little inspiration from you to jump the gun and buy this in the first place, I knew I was going to have an ST look someday no matter what.
11-12-2013 06:27 PM
suss6052
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From what I am told it looks better in person, I agree the tow cover looks like garbage but that's what happens when you order an $8 used part from overseas, the Ford logo will also be in place soon, haven't gotten around to ordering it yet. Compared to an actual ST I am told the gap between the hood and bumper are nearly the same, as for the fender and the bumper I'm not sure, it does definitely look like a gap but I won't know how it looks in person for a few more weeks. All in all I've been told by several friends/family that it looks great, all I can do for now is cross my fingers and hope that is such. Thanks for the constructive criticism, though! :thumbup:

If it isn't perfect then it looks like I will someday swap the parts out to fix it, for now I am happy, though.

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I'm glad you're happy with it and were willing to take the risk to be the first to install these replica parts, because now there's a lower cost alternative for those who want the look but don't want to spend o.e. money for o.e. parts.

The gap does not look correct from these photos and this angle. In various places it looks like the hood is adjusted too far down and there is contact rather than clearance to the cover.

For reference from similar angles here is my old car and my ST.

The gap should be fairly uniform between the hood and the bumper cover like this:





A side by side comparison of the o.e. cover on my old Frosted Glass SEL and my current ST when new with both having the same exact gap between the cover and the hood and no issues with rubbing on lights or the cover.

The cutlines at the fender look more ragged as well vs the o.e. part:





No that isn't quite as perfect a fit as my silver ST, but some of that is down to the shop that worked on it vs being on the line.

Not trying to nit pick, but just pointing out what I see. Take it with several grains of salt if you wish. Just detailed areas to look at to see if they can be adjusted to make it look closer to being a great fit.

Enjoy it, once more people start modifying their cars they might actually learn to love them more as well.
11-12-2013 04:36 PM
lstat
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Originally Posted by suss6052 View Post
Sorry but this looks ok from a distance but I'm not sure if it's the paint job or the parts but the area around the cut out for the tow hook looks quite rough, the missing Ford Logo from the front also draws my attention.

That and the inconsistent gaps between the hood and bumper cover as well as the gap between the fenders and the cover.

As long as you're happy that's all that matters but I can see where corners were cut with the pattern parts vs the o.e. ones.

10/10 for style, minus several million for good thinking - Zaphod Beeblebrox, Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy ( Movie 2005)

It cost $330 ish to have a dealer body shop paint and install the cover on my old Focus, so if you had maaco paint the cover, skirts, and rear valance for around $500 then more corners were likely cut.
From what I am told it looks better in person, I agree the tow cover looks like garbage but that's what happens when you order an $8 used part from overseas, the Ford logo will also be in place soon, haven't gotten around to ordering it yet. Compared to an actual ST I am told the gap between the hood and bumper are nearly the same, as for the fender and the bumper I'm not sure, it does definitely look like a gap but I won't know how it looks in person for a few more weeks. All in all I've been told by several friends/family that it looks great, all I can do for now is cross my fingers and hope that is such. Thanks for the constructive criticism, though! :thumbup:

If it isn't perfect then it looks like I will someday swap the parts out to fix it, for now I am happy, though.

Sent from my SGH-I337 using FF Mobile
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