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02-07-2014 08:02 PM
jsr72
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Originally Posted by paul21 View Post
This is typical CYA (or omission?) on the 17" rims. There's no practical difference in the 215/50/R17 and 215/55/R16, except ~0.1" extra radius on the tire, as far as clearance is concerned. Less rubber cushion and more rim scratches, perhaps. The 18" rims come with wider tires, up to 235's on the ST, so clearance might be an issue but I don't own them so I can't check.
Not likely an omission. The ST Owner's Manual Supplement specifically mentions only the 16" size is suitable for snow chain use.

Compatible Snow Tire/Wheel Packages:

Tire size Required wheel
235/40-18 Original equipment ST wheel or equivalent
235/45-17 Owner supplied. See your Ford dealer for
215/50-17 suitable wheels from the Focus lineup
215/55-16*

*Required size to prevent vehicle damage if snow chain use is required.
02-07-2014 08:39 AM
focusmaniaczx3
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im pretty sure that fairly well covers it. nothing else needed. no need for snow tires or even all seasons. it wont horribly fudge up your rims tires fenders or the roads. they install very quickly and easily, they are disposable and cheap. just drive in the snow until you cant and then hop out and take 2 minutes to put these one and go. too bad they are out of stock right now though. will just have to wait until next year

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02-07-2014 12:30 AM
paul21
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Originally Posted by jsr72 View Post
15" is allowed. From the MKIII owners manual (non ST)...

Use SAE Class S chains with 195/65R15 or 215/55R16 tires only; do not use tire chains with any other size tires.
This is typical CYA (or omission?) on the 17" rims. There's no practical difference in the 215/50/R17 and 215/55/R16, except ~0.1" extra radius on the tire, as far as clearance is concerned. Less rubber cushion and more rim scratches, perhaps. The 18" rims come with wider tires, up to 235's on the ST, so clearance might be an issue but I don't own them so I can't check.


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Originally Posted by mvgary094 View Post
If you don't understand how this works on the west coast, please stop telling us about snow tires. In California we barely ever need chains or snow tires but if we do, they are enforced by the highway patrol. Nobody in California who doesn't live in Tahoe has snow tires. I've been trying to find out for a while if anyone has used chains and all I hear about is snow tires. If somebody does know about whether you can run chains(cables) on an mk1 with 195+ tire width. Their input would be greatly appreciated.
http://www.scc-chain.com/technical-i...arance-issues/ , here is a clearance guide for some types of chains. I'd just twist the tire around and measure for any tight spots on that chart and go with S class or something similar. Their radial chains (SC10xx) can be had for about $30 from Amazon and seem to exceed S-class requirements a little bit.

I don't understand why the snow tire fans come in and argue against them, especially when they're a decent supplement to snow tires alone at a fraction of the cost. Yeah, they'll probably scratch your rims. Yeah, snow tires are better than all seasons without chains. It sucks to put chains on, etc. All I have to say is $30 .
02-06-2014 06:02 PM
mvgary094 If you don't understand how this works on the west coast, please stop telling us about snow tires. In California we barely ever need chains or snow tires but if we do, they are enforced by the highway patrol. Nobody in California who doesn't live in Tahoe has snow tires. I've been trying to find out for a while if anyone has used chains and all I hear about is snow tires. If somebody does know about whether you can run chains(cables) on an mk1 with 195+ tire width. Their input would be greatly appreciated.
04-22-2013 10:58 PM
jsr72
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Originally Posted by sailor View Post
I'm not current on all the optional sizes for the '13's, but I THINK 16" is the smallest Std. size avail..
15" is allowed. From the MKIII owners manual (non ST)...

Use SAE Class S chains with 195/65R15 or 215/55R16 tires only; do not use tire chains with any other size tires.
04-22-2013 09:36 PM
sailor I'd say the salesman was counting the commission on the Titanium Edition Focus, not worrying about how you'd get around in the Winter!

I'm not current on all the optional sizes for the '13's, but I THINK 16" is the smallest Std. size avail..

A set of those, with appropriate size Winter tires, should get you through MOST of the Winter driving you face. And you should be able to get chains to fit those to carry so you're "legal" where required. Going on through the pass when USE of chains is required would be at your discretion. (More than one Truck sits it out for a bit until the "chain law" lights go out as the road is cleared...)

Laws on the use of chains vary by state, year, and type of vehicle from what I've seen, & can change by the minute depending on current conditions in some cases.

In the few times I've been over the passes in the Winter myself, I've managed to avoid "throwing iron" - though I had to buy enough chains to be "legal" just in case!

Hope some 'Locals" from the states involved comment, at least you have some time to plan for next year at this point.

Cheers!
04-21-2013 05:54 PM
jetfuelgm I received the same reply from Les Schwab. Kind of wonder what was going through the salesman's head when I told him of the travel needs for my job in OR, WA, ID, MT, WY???
10-17-2012 05:55 PM
lyonsroar quality thread bump...
10-17-2012 05:02 PM
jetfuelgm
2012 Focus Titanium Tire chains

I called our local Les Schwab and they advised to check the owners manual, which I did, it does not provide a recommended size for the 215/50 R17's.

Anyone found a suitable size chain for the 17's?
11-27-2011 02:36 PM
mlebl Thanks for all the comments. Unfortunately snow tires, or studded tires wont work because the drive between spokane, portland, and San diego has mainly Highway miles. I went with some heavy duty snow chains that have 12mm links. I will definately use the idea of tightening the chains after driving for a litttle while. Also, I have purchased an extra set of tensioners just in case.
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