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03-14-2013 02:32 PM
distroy3d And also, out of curiosity, what colour temp did you get for your fogs and low-beams? You fogs look very very blue (8000k?) and the pics make your low-beams look almost green haha. And in regards to your last edit on your main post about your high-beams not having HIDs, that's how it is for the Focus because we use a dual-filament bulb, there's no HID high-beam available. What some companies do is attach a second halogen bulb to the HID bulb to act as a high-beam. Looks silly/stupid to me, but to each their own:


The other thing I wanted to say regarding HID high-beam, is that it isn't a good idea in the first place, as HID bulbs take time to "warm up" to their full intensity and power. That means that if you flash-to-pass with an HID high-beam, it wouldn't be very bright flashing anyways. Also, HID bulbs and ballasts don't like being turned on and off repeatedly like you would be doing when you flash-to-pass, so you would end up burning out your bulbs/ballasts very very quickly doing it.
03-12-2013 05:18 PM
distroy3d You could. It's essentially the same process whether you're doing low-beam reflector, low-beam projector, or fogs. Just different bulbs and different ballast mounting locations. I can post pictures of my cutoff from my HIDs in Hella projectors if you would like some more variety and see how it looks? Also, did you end up keeping your HIDs in the low-beam reflectors, or did you go back to halogen?

And in terms of your edit on the fogs and not getting pulled over, most people conclude that since they are so low to the ground, the glare is so minimal that no one bothers you about it. I have yet to do it to my fogs, but plan on doing it soon. I currently have Nokya Hyper Yellow 2500k halogen bulbs in my fogs and they look fantastic. But, my dad recently bought a new car which coincidentally uses the same bulbs as the Focus and he likes the looks of my yellow fogs, so I might as well upgrade mine and give him my Nokya bulbs.
03-12-2013 04:56 PM
slinkmerc On my third edit i compare high and low beam halogen to the low beam HID in a stock projector.
What do you guys think? Should I post a tutorial on how I did it?
03-06-2013 09:59 AM
slinkmerc
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Can you post a picture with the light projected at a wall, about 20 feet away or so? I'm curious to see how high the hid fog light gets thrown/scattered. I'd assume since they are so low on the car and they are generally aimed several inches lower than your headlights, it should be better than dreaded hid in stock headlight housing.
Sure, I'll post that later today
03-06-2013 09:55 AM
rambleon84 Can you post a picture with the light projected at a wall, about 20 feet away or so? I'm curious to see how high the hid fog light gets thrown/scattered. I'd assume since they are so low on the car and they are generally aimed several inches lower than your headlights, it should be better than dreaded hid in stock headlight housing.
03-06-2013 02:02 AM
distroy3d I agree. It isn't cheap. Honestly, I suggest you go high-performance halogen (Hella, Piaa, etc) over HID. But like I said, I won't attack you on a forum for what you do, and in the end it's what you wanna do to make your car stand out from the crowd :)
03-06-2013 12:04 AM
slinkmerc
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Like I said, to each their own. I'm not in your neighbourhood so it won't bother me lol. But regardless, I think you won't be happy with them - especially when you get that first ticket from a cop! There are lots of alternatives to use HIDs safely.

You can grab a set of Machs. They usually go from $200-$350 in varying condition from what I've seen.

You can try to find a set of Hella projectors like the ones in my avatar. They're rare though and aren't designed for HIDs, but take well to them anyways with a good cutoff and no glare. The beam width isn't the best though. I got mine for $200 off Kijiji.

You can try to grab a set of the new Hella projectors that they have group buys for. They're brand new and designed for HIDs if you get the HID version instead of the Dynabeam ones. They're costly though at a tad over $500 I believe.

You can grab a pair of eBay projector headlights for anywhere from $40-$100 and throw an HID kit in. Won't be blinding, but the projectors are low quality and don't do much better than halogens in stock reflectors.

Lastly, you can do a full retrofit. Those are I believe $300 but one of the best quality and most unique setups. If you end up buying HIDs for your reflectors and change your mind, you can save money on the retrofit by using the "Plug-and-Play upgrade to Bi-Xenon" kits from The Retrofit Source and reuse your own ballasts. Saves you about $75 I believe on your retro.

Just some other options for whether you choose you don't like your reflector HID setup. In the end, you get what you pay for.
Thank you for the information, but as far as my financial status and probably a lot of people are on the same boat as I am. I can't afford 300$-500$ Projector Beams/wasting time on 40$ fleabay projectors that are BS + don't look appealing. But good information nonetheless.
03-05-2013 06:26 PM
distroy3d
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You prove a great point friend. I will be posting the tutorial for poor people such as myself who cannot buy projector beam headlights. If I cant find a way to use HID's safely in the stock headlight I will revert to halogens and will not be posting anything. :)
Like I said, to each their own. I'm not in your neighbourhood so it won't bother me lol. But regardless, I think you won't be happy with them - especially when you get that first ticket from a cop! There are lots of alternatives to use HIDs safely.

You can grab a set of Machs. They usually go from $200-$350 in varying condition from what I've seen.

You can try to find a set of Hella projectors like the ones in my avatar. They're rare though and aren't designed for HIDs, but take well to them anyways with a good cutoff and no glare. The beam width isn't the best though. I got mine for $200 off Kijiji.

You can try to grab a set of the new Hella projectors that they have group buys for. They're brand new and designed for HIDs if you get the HID version instead of the Dynabeam ones. They're costly though at a tad over $500 I believe.

You can grab a pair of eBay projector headlights for anywhere from $40-$100 and throw an HID kit in. Won't be blinding, but the projectors are low quality and don't do much better than halogens in stock reflectors.

Lastly, you can do a full retrofit. Those are I believe $300 but one of the best quality and most unique setups. If you end up buying HIDs for your reflectors and change your mind, you can save money on the retrofit by using the "Plug-and-Play upgrade to Bi-Xenon" kits from The Retrofit Source and reuse your own ballasts. Saves you about $75 I believe on your retro.

Just some other options for whether you choose you don't like your reflector HID setup. In the end, you get what you pay for.
03-05-2013 06:12 PM
slinkmerc You prove a great point friend. I will be posting the tutorial for poor people such as myself who cannot buy projector beam headlights. If I cant find a way to use HID's safely in the stock headlight I will revert to halogens and will not be posting anything. :)
03-05-2013 06:00 PM
distroy3d
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I got the kit off of some local vendor here in San Diego, but you can get the same kit I did from fleabay. The kelvin color is 6000. Thank you for informing me of the name if the craftsman tool. I don't like the 3000 kelvin color I think it looks tacky. I aimed the fog lights with a machine so they don't blind anyone, so far it works well and it looks good. I will be doing my headlights soon and will be posting a tutorial on that.

I know putting HID's in stock headlights is a touchy subject but aiming them correctly shouldn't blind anyone, in my opinion.
It is a touchy subject I'm not gonna' attack you for it like some people do, but the fact is the reflectors were designed for a small focal point of light from the filament on a halogen bulb. HIDs have an arc of light that compromises the focal point so regardless of how you aim them, it will reflect light upwards into other people's eyes instead of onto the road.

I've seen people who aim them low and it isn't as blinding, but these are usually only in cars with separate high/low beams such as my friend's Prelude and some of the newer Civics. From what I've seen of Focuses who do this (in comparison to say, Civics which have separate high/low bulbs) is since the bulb uses an arc of light, it lights up where the high-beam filament would be on a stock H4 bulb making the consequences even worse than if it were in a single-filament bulb. But that's just my opinion. I'll see if I can find a pic I saw before of a Focus using HIDs in their reflectors and how the high-beam is lit up in a way where no matter how low you aim them, you will be blinding someone.

In the end, to each their own I suppose. I don't attack people who do it, but I do try to inform them of what they are doing and how in the end it negatively impacts everyone, even themselves as they probably get less usable light on the road as opposed to high-performance halogen bulbs, like Hella and Piaa bulbs.

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Here's the pic of a guy with 6,000K bulbs in his Focus. You can see how high the hot-spot from the HID bulb is and how it just floods the entire area above the car. It isn't concentrated at all on the road. This is why I don't believe you can aimyour headlights down enough to make HIDs useful with on-the-road light and not blind people.
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