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02-22-2015 07:45 PM
dyn085
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Originally Posted by wavsine View Post
This is what keeps the argument going. Most know their car won't throw a rod just because they don't run top shelf synthetics or are lax on their oil changes.

But they want to do that little extra to keep their car for a while. Why not? It's a major investment and it's fun to take care of it.
I definitely don't disagree with people wanting to take care of their cars, what I disagree with are those that think they 'know' about oil arguing vehemently when they actually have no clue about what they're taking about. I mean seriously, we still have people that think a 3k mile oil change makes sense for daily driving.

And by 'hope to keep them a while' I mean not trade them off, not anything regarding Mobil 1 blowing up my engines, just for clarification. I have a tough time keeping cars around for a while.
02-22-2015 06:54 PM
wavsine
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Definitely gonna agree. I see so many useless arguments over oil, yet there are rarely ever instances of people posting that their engine seized or blew because of it.
^ First this

And then:
I'm probably going to swap to Amsoil in the ST's (currently using Mobil-1 ep) at 10k simply because I *hope* to keep these cars for a while.
This is what keeps the argument going. Most know their car won't throw a rod just because they don't run top shelf synthetics or are lax on their oil changes.

But they want to do that little extra to keep their car for a while. Why not? It's a major investment and it's fun to take care of it.
02-22-2015 06:47 PM
felixthecat I'd say just used a synthetic oil such as Mobil 1 & a good filter like a Mobil 1 filter. Change it once or twice a yr depending on the mileage you put on your car. As far as brand, like Castrol's Edge, Royal Purple, Amsoil , Synpower, ect I don't know. Filters= I use Mobil 1 filters. Again, IDK about K&N, Royal Purple, Wix ,ect.
02-22-2015 06:22 PM
Arco-Zakus
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Originally Posted by dyn085 View Post
... there are rarely ever instances of people posting that their engine seized or blew because of it. If/when you ever hear about it, it's because either someone never changed the oil or forgot to put some in during a change-not because someone used 10w-30 or went 10k miles on a fill instead of 7500. ...
Or because some part was just defective from the factory and its failure had nothing to do with deficient lubrication.
02-22-2015 06:08 PM
dyn085
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Originally Posted by Arco-Zakus View Post
I didn't say they are politics or religion, just that they "remind me" of such discussions. That's because so many comments just repeat myths based on folklore, or opinions pulled from a bodily exit orfice, rather than being drawn from facts as you have done here. Still, there are plenty of people who have argued that somehow you or Ford got it wrong.
Definitely gonna agree. I see so many useless arguments over oil, yet there are rarely ever instances of people posting that their engine seized or blew because of it. If/when you ever hear about it, it's because either someone never changed the oil or forgot to put some in during a change-not because someone used 10w-30 or went 10k miles on a fill instead of 7500.

I'm probably going to swap to Amsoil in the ST's (currently using Mobil-1 ep) at 10k simply because I *hope* to keep these cars for a while. If so then I'll use UOA's to determine how often it's changed because it will be specific to my situation instead of some dude in Alaska or Arizona.
02-22-2015 03:54 PM
Arco-Zakus
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Originally Posted by wavsine View Post
... This is neither politics nor opinion. These are Ford recommendations. ...
I didn't say they are politics or religion, just that they "remind me" of such discussions. That's because so many comments just repeat myths based on folklore, or opinions pulled from a bodily exit orfice, rather than being drawn from facts as you have done here. Still, there are plenty of people who have argued that somehow you or Ford got it wrong.
02-22-2015 11:40 AM
wavsine
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Originally Posted by Arco-Zakus View Post
By Ford, or by experts on the internet?

The owner's manual has the manufacturer's recommended intervals, but opinions among focusfanatics vary. Oil change intervals have been discussed at length in many threads (including this one) with much disagreement over the answer to your question. Sometimes it reminds me of discussions of politics or religion. Or about what is the "best" motor oil or gasoline to use.
Ford issues contradictory recommendations on this issue. The owner's manual will let you go up to 10,000 miles on an oil change while their general oil change guidelines limit it to 7500.

"2008 and newer model-year vehicles: every 7,500 miles or every six months, whichever comes first"

http://support.ford.com/maintenance/when-to-change-oil

If you read the fine print in the MK3 owner's manual, there are several caveats associated with going 10,000 miles on an oil change:

Normal commuting with highway driving
No, or moderate, load or towing
Flat to moderately hilly roads
NO extended idling (sitting in traffic)

How many city dwellers operate within those parameters? Very few. In fact, many people in big city traffic operate within the "Less typical driving habits" category. (Extensive idling, limited highway driving, etc.) According to Ford's general oil change guidelines, these people should be changing their oil every 5,000 miles:

"2008 and newer model-year vehicles: every 5,000 miles or every six months, whichever comes first"

if

Towing or carrying heavy loads
Idling extensively or driving at low speeds for long distances
Driving in dusty conditions
Driving off-road frequently
Using E85 fuel more than 50% of the time

This is neither politics nor opinion. These are Ford recommendations.

http://support.ford.com/maintenance/when-to-change-oil
02-22-2015 05:27 AM
Arco-Zakus
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Originally Posted by Heat1 View Post
... If using the synthetic blend from Wal-Mart from Page 1, what is the recommended interval between changes? ...
By Ford, or by experts on the internet?

The owner's manual has the manufacturer's recommended intervals, but opinions among focusfanatics vary. Oil change intervals have been discussed at length in many threads (including this one) with much disagreement over the answer to your question. Sometimes it reminds me of discussions of politics or religion. Or about what is the "best" motor oil or gasoline to use.
02-21-2015 07:18 AM
Tigeo ^^^Its the syn-blend that they use. At 10K/year, twice a year/every 6-mod/5000K seems v. reasonable.
02-21-2015 03:32 AM
Heat1 Does the Ford dealer normally use synthetic when changing the oil in a MK3 Focus? I'm seeing "The Works" (oil change, tire rotation, fluid topoff, etc) for $30 after $10 rebate.

If using the synthetic blend from Wal-Mart from Page 1, what is the recommended interval between changes? I anticipate maybe driving 10,000 miles per year on this Focus (new to me, a '12 SE). I'll do "The Works" from the dealer for now but will do my own changes after that, most likely.

I anticipate changing the oil every 5,000 miles, or twice a year minimum.
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