|10-07-2013 06:41 PM|
I know this thread is a little old, But I have a 2000 Focus ZX3 It has about he same issue. It will shift 1st and 2nd fine but when it tries to go from 2nd to 3rd it will just go from 2nd to neutral and it revs up and doesnt go anywhere. 1st and 2nd work great no slippage.
I was wandering if anybody could link me to the part he replaced or show me a pic. Id like to just replace that if its the issue.
also I have the DOHC and trans code is PVAC XS4P-DF
|02-22-2013 06:59 AM|
|amc49||X2 there brother...........|
|02-21-2013 02:57 AM|
Dealers love throwing new parts at cars. It saves them time and makes them money.
I've learned over the years that alot of the parts I've replaced bought me little more than piece of mind over re-using the old parts with a thorough cleaning and inspection. Its amazing the service life you can get out of internal parts/ bearings even when non-critical areas are damaged. Theres a certain satisfaction i get out of reusing old parts and saving $$$.
Thanks again for all if your help!
|02-20-2013 09:36 PM|
|amc49||There you go. Just putting it out there. I would have done same thing, if flow seems good enough the old one would most likely be going right back on car. I would have soaked it for a week in acetone, if that doesn't break trash loose nothing will or none there. Them factory boys don't care about recouping parts since they don't get advantage from it. I save/reuse every part I can. I blew up a CD4E on a Contour, common on them with the sorry engineering, one drive shell I reused looked like a bomb went off inside it (actually did in a way), it works fine some 6 years later. If you saw that part you'd laugh....|
|02-20-2013 11:24 AM|
Thanks again for all of your help!
|02-19-2013 09:38 PM|
|amc49||Luck...........you should probably know that Ford strongly recommends the trans cooler be changed when this type of wear occurs, often the cooler stops up and the return to back of the end cover then slows down to a trickle to wear the cover out. The cooler is supposedly not cleanable, the design of the inside of tubes stops it from flushing clean of trash settled in it.|
|02-19-2013 05:41 PM|
Final update (hopefully)! Installed the new rear cover and the trans works great.
I did not replace the the direct or reverse housing since there was no play in either when installed on the new cover. Ford wants over $300 for new so I decided I inspect them closely and run them.
Vautotrans on ebay sells the rear cover new with a fitting for the Mazda cooler for $75 + shipping incase anyone else runs across this problem.
Biggest bummer of all of this is that I could have saved alot of time and $$$ and just swapped in a new cover. Thankfully we did not pay a mechanic a few $K for this! All said & done we have about $800 in parts including new motor mounts, fluids etc... I probably have about 40+ hours into it.
Hopefully if anyone else experiences a sudden complete loss of 3rd and 4th gear in their 4f27E of Fn4a-el they can check this before pulling the trans completely and rebuilding it.
Thanks for all of your help!
|02-08-2013 11:20 PM|
|Endless||Thanks for your input amc. Ill price out all the parts and see if its worth it. I think im mainly inclined to just replace the direct housing since that is where the wear ocurred. The reverse housing bushing will ride on the new cover but im hoping it will be fine.|
|02-08-2013 10:17 PM|
|amc49||Whatever ran against the worn surfaces needs fixing, be it bushing or seal rings. Bushings can look fantastic and be dead, they are softer than steel parts. Generally if you change one surface, the other running against it gets changed too. You can often change bushing only and not housing, but you need to be able to install bushing straight and with no damage.|
|02-08-2013 09:34 PM|
Finally got the rear cover pulled and it is badly worn and definately will be replaced. One tech article says to replace the direct and reverse clutch housings when this failure has occured. The direct housing looks ok to me on the seal surface but its hard to tell without a bore guage and specs. I see no reason why the reverse housing should be replaced.
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