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08-29-2016 08:23 AM
besfocusowner
New TSB Issued confirming ford.oemdtc.com Report

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Originally Posted by PratoN View Post
Wow - not sure how this went unnoticed for so long! It's been installed on build dates after 6 Nov 2015.

New clutch part number is: F1FZ-7B546-B

DPS6 Transmission Have A New Clutch Available For Service ? 2011-2016 Ford Fiesta & 2012-2016 Focus | ford.oemdtc.com
See my post #1553 in the other forum thread.

http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/m...parts-156.html
08-29-2016 02:16 AM
Arco-Zakus
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Originally Posted by 1turbofocus View Post
Funny you asked that , As soon as I paid for the Focus the sales guy walked me out the the Focus , First thing I did was load my tune to it , just the base tune , sales guy asked me what I did , I told him I fixed the shudder , he laughed and said sure you did , He got in and we went for the same drive we did 2 times previous , 80% of the shudder gone and he was driving it , I took the service guy, 2 tech`s for a ride that had worked on the car and they were shocked , that dealer now buys my tunes , many of them , And I bought this MK3 just after I started making the DCT Tune ...
I'll bet that was fun.

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Originally Posted by 1turbofocus View Post
... There is and I sell to more dealers , used car lots then anyone now , I dont want to get into the used car business ...
I don't blame you. The DCTs would probably not be the only things that needed attention.

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Originally Posted by 1turbofocus View Post
... My thoughts are they have had 5 years to fix this , they havent , why ? If I can get rid of the shudder or at least make it a LOT better on most why cant they ? Its a software issue not a parts issue yet they keep throwing parts at it
I dont know if Ford has a software engineer even working on it , I think there looking at parts only ...
That's depressing. Somehow they can take the Ford GT back to Le Mans after 50 years and win again, but are still shipping questionable DCTs in Focuses.

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Originally Posted by 1turbofocus View Post
... It would be easy for Ford to take my tune , load it , read the PCM/TCM see what I changed , incorporate it into a new update and be done , It would work as a canned/generic change for all and would still pass all required emissions and I could then read a ECM/TCM and see it in there my self by having customers send me a .bef files out of the xcal once they load a tune and I have been doing that and it isnt there yet , I would recognize it if it was

Tom
The lawyers probably wouldn't let them do it even in a lab, let alone in a customer's car. Big companies I've worked for were really touchy about any intellectual property liabilities. Don't know whether you'd have grounds to sue over that if they did it, but I think corporate lawyers usually try to avoid discovering the answer to that kind of question.
08-28-2016 07:46 PM
1turbofocus
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Originally Posted by Arco-Zakus View Post
Why didn't the dealer you "stole" yours from just buy a tune from you instead and then sell the car for a better price to someone else? If they weren't interested before, now they sould be after seeing your results.
Funny you asked that , As soon as I paid for the Focus the sales guy walked me out the the Focus , First thing I did was load my tune to it , just the base tune , sales guy asked me what I did , I told him I fixed the shudder , he laughed and said sure you did , He got in and we went for the same drive we did 2 times previous , 80% of the shudder gone and he was driving it , I took the service guy, 2 tech`s for a ride that had worked on the car and they were shocked , that dealer now buys my tunes , many of them , And I bought this MK3 just after I started making the DCT Tune

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Originally Posted by Arco-Zakus View Post
If you could do that repeatedly could you make a business out of "flipping" Mk3 Focuses with "bad" DCTs? Maybe you could even buy them cheap by the fleet from Ford dealers who don't know what to do with them. There must be a lot of them out there by now. (It'd be fun to slip a turbo kit into one or two along the way, too.)
There is and I sell to more dealers , used car lots then anyone now , I dont want to get into the used car business

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Originally Posted by Arco-Zakus View Post
"Ever", like with any of the past cases we've seen, or not ever, even with any future attempts?

If never, do you think that is because they don't intend to? Or that they want to but don't know how?

I don't remember it taking you very long to come up with your solution after you started looking into it seriously. Seems with all the talented engineers Ford has working for them they should be able to figure it out too.
My thoughts are they have had 5 years to fix this , they havent , why ? If I can get rid of the shudder or at least make it a LOT better on most why cant they ? Its a software issue not a parts issue yet they keep throwing parts at it
I dont know if Ford has a software engineer even working on it , I think there looking at parts only
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Originally Posted by Arco-Zakus View Post
I realize they could not commit to customizing the tune for each car individually like you do, but I've worked with many software designers over the years who could analyze what you have done and create software that could get a computer to do the same thing. Maybe that automation of what you do would not fit into the TCM, but it could at least be done off line I would think.
It would be easy for Ford to take my tune , load it , read the PCM/TCM see what I changed , incorporate it into a new update and be done , It would work as a canned/generic change for all and would still pass all required emissions and I could then read a ECM/TCM and see it in there my self by having customers send me a .bef files out of the xcal once they load a tune and I have been doing that and it isnt there yet , I would recognize it if it was

Tom
08-28-2016 05:46 PM
Arco-Zakus
Flipping DCTs?

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Originally Posted by 1turbofocus View Post
I will , I have 2 MK3 and will more then likely buy another at some point

I stole my second one , test drove it used , shudder was so bad couldnt hardly drive it , found out it was a buy back , haggled for 3 weeks and got it for my price because they couldnt fix it , loaded my Custom Tune and drove it home with 80% of the shudder gone with first try

I dont get all the fussing from the guys that still have shudder when there is a solution out there that works to cure it on most of the MK3 I have done , Ford dealers have figured it out there my best customers now LOL ...
Why didn't the dealer you "stole" yours from just buy a tune from you instead and then sell the car for a better price to someone else? If they weren't interested before, now they sould be after seeing your results.

If you could do that repeatedly could you make a business out of "flipping" Mk3 Focuses with "bad" DCTs? Maybe you could even buy them cheap by the fleet from Ford dealers who don't know what to do with them. There must be a lot of them out there by now. (It'd be fun to slip a turbo kit into one or two along the way, too.)

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Originally Posted by 1turbofocus View Post
... I dont ever see Ford fixing this

Tom
"Ever", like with any of the past cases we've seen, or not ever, even with any future attempts?

If never, do you think that is because they don't intend to? Or that they want to but don't know how?

I don't remember it taking you very long to come up with your solution after you started looking into it seriously. Seems with all the talented engineers Ford has working for them they should be able to figure it out too.

I realize they could not commit to customizing the tune for each car individually like you do, but I've worked with many software designers over the years who could analyze what you have done and create software that could get a computer to do the same thing. Maybe that automation of what you do would not fit into the TCM, but it could at least be done off line I would think.
08-26-2016 06:05 PM
Polarmud
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Originally Posted by 1turbofocus View Post
I will , I have 2 MK3 and will more then likely buy another at some point

I stole my second one , test drove it used , shudder was so bad couldnt hardly drive it , found out it was a buy back , haggled for 3 weeks and got it for my price because they couldnt fix it , loaded my Custom Tune and drove it home with 80% of the shudder gone with first try

I dont get all the fussing from the guys that still have shudder when there is a solution out there that works to cure it on most of the MK3 I have done , Ford dealers have figured it out there my best customers now LOL

I dont ever see Ford fixing this

Tom
Hey Turbo Focus, I appreciate the info on here. So you are saying it would be wise of me to get your tune right after I buy a new 16 Focus. Which I would do if I got one. I have ran across a few other posts on other forums saying that a tune like yours is a drastic improvement. I'm still a little hesitant...
08-26-2016 11:36 AM
cruisencode
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Originally Posted by 1turbofocus View Post
<snip>I dont ever see Ford fixing this
And this is why I will not be buying another Ford.

As for your tune, I can't do it right now. Honestly, I'll probably end up dumping the Focus around the end of the year.
08-26-2016 11:31 AM
1turbofocus I will , I have 2 MK3 and will more then likely buy another at some point

I stole my second one , test drove it used , shudder was so bad couldnt hardly drive it , found out it was a buy back , haggled for 3 weeks and got it for my price because they couldnt fix it , loaded my Custom Tune and drove it home with 80% of the shudder gone with first try

I dont get all the fussing from the guys that still have shudder when there is a solution out there that works to cure it on most of the MK3 I have done , Ford dealers have figured it out there my best customers now LOL

I dont ever see Ford fixing this

Tom
08-26-2016 06:36 AM
cruisencode
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Originally Posted by Polarmud View Post
Now now. all of the big 3 have got issues. Just google search "Active Fuel Management" and you'll see what I'm talking about.
You asked for thoughts and I told you mine. If you want to ignore it or downplay what I've experienced with my Focus, that's up to you. I, however, will not be buying another Ford.
08-25-2016 05:37 PM
Polarmud
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Originally Posted by cruisencode View Post
Based on my experience with my 2014 Focus, I'd say don't buy it. As a matter of fact, I doubt I will ever buy a Ford again.
Now now. all of the big 3 have got issues. Just google search "Active Fuel Management" and you'll see what I'm talking about.
08-25-2016 10:34 AM
TooOld
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Originally Posted by MichaelD View Post
I have an early-production 2012, and I'd happily buy a 2016 Focus. I say go for it.
And based on my '14 DCT, I purchased a '15 DCT. I concur: go for it.
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