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02-04-2013 08:54 PM
mjd4277 Look on the bright side people. At least it's not a Caliber!!!
02-04-2013 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by RonMaiden View Post
So,it's their version of the Shelby Focus;more of a money grab than actual substance.
That depends on the selling price but given that they are only going to make 500 of them just like the Shelby Focus ST I'd say that you might be onto something. It would be funny if it came out with a price tag 10 or 15 grand larger that the Dart it's based on though. They would be sitting in showrooms and lots for a while I think.
02-04-2013 01:23 PM
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The styling isn't terrible, it's decent for an American redux (unless your ass is chapped that we never got the Alfa),
That's a rousing endorsement of the Dart's styling, that it "isn't terrible". I agree, it's mediocre but at least it's not "Euro-peen" offensive to the sensibilities of American mullet haircut wearers everywhere. If only it had big fins or a giant spoiler on the rear it would all set for those Mopar guys. They can always add large fuzzy dice or something to hang from the rear view mirror though. It basically is the Alfa Romeo except for the styling changes to the exterior and some details like lengthening and widening the body structure a bit so Americans would fit (which also makes it heavier) and meeting US federal regs on lights etc. Looks like the engines are pretty much the same in America except as always we get less choices in that dept. than Europeans do. That's to be expected though to hold the price down to what Americans think a smaller car should cost (a much smaller amount of dollars). Those Fiat designed Dart engines are at least all Michigan made at the Dundee MI engine plant I believe, correct me if I'm wrong there.
02-04-2013 07:39 AM
Mile30 I work on 'em for a living... they handle alright. And out-of-the-box they leave a little to be desired power-wise; but so did my mk1 and I'm still throwing money at the solution! The styling isn't terrible, it's decent for an American redux (unless your ass is chapped that we never got the Alfa), I think people will debate and debate thus until the 'Street Fighter' comes out in a year or two: I'm already considering getting one based on the scuttlebutt at work and corporate training centers (they have the best water-cooler discussions!)!
02-01-2013 04:31 PM
boardgeneration ^ gotta love media and the crap filled marketing scam that we see on TV these days. This thing don't get close to the MPG they claim either. Even 98% hwy with 91 recommended and easy on the pedal I get no better than 30-31. Its winter tho. And been windy as hell.
I'm not a mopar or dodge fanboy. I like to hear both sides.

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02-01-2013 03:25 PM
Focus YBTC
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Originally Posted by boardgeneration View Post
Traded my 05 focus ZX3 in on one. I love it.
So does 99.8% of those who also own one.
The other .2% probably hate Dodge/Chrysler and their significant other bought it.

Say what ya want about the new Dart. Everyone has an opinion.
And after test driving the 12 Focus, I test drove the Dart.... The dart won. I know I'm happy with it.
And Only 160hp? Yes 160 in a 1.4L plus 184 lbs torque. Not that far from the svt if anyone's counting.
Plus with basic bolt-ons it up to 190hp from what I've seen from others dyno's so far.
No tune yet but once it's out.....
Looks are one thing yes I understand that. But as for performance it hold up just fine.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVED my focus!! I miss it a lot!!
I don't hate the Dart or Chrysler, I do think they took a styling masterwork and dumbed it down big time for the American market that's all. It still looks alright though as I said. Then to run commercials about how it's all a brand new advanced creation is a really pathetic thing for Chrysler to do. It's a fine car from what I've read about it. It's a bit heavy and the DCT has some issues but the Focus can be accused of the same things.
02-01-2013 02:58 PM
boardgeneration
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Originally Posted by mjd4277 View Post
Has anyone here aside from me actually sat in one and DRIVEN IT??
Traded my 05 focus ZX3 in on one. I love it.
So does 99.8% of those who also own one.
The other .2% probably hate Dodge/Chrysler and their significant other bought it.

Say what ya want about the new Dart. Everyone has an opinion.
And after test driving the 12 Focus, I test drove the Dart.... The dart won. I know I'm happy with it.
And Only 160hp? Yes 160 in a 1.4L plus 184 lbs torque. Not that far from the svt if anyone's counting.
Plus with basic bolt-ons it up to 190hp from what I've seen from others dyno's so far.
No tune yet but once it's out.....
Looks are one thing yes I understand that. But as for performance it hold up just fine.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVED my focus!! I miss it a lot!!
02-01-2013 02:46 PM
Focus YBTC
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Originally Posted by FLYLOW View Post
This is why i lol everytime a see dart commercials on tv... The say it was designed from scratch, that its perfect, thats its very advanced blah blah blah
That is really funny too knowing the history of the platform. You have to wonder if Chrysler went through all that duplicitous nonsense simply because it's basically not an American car at its roots. Heck the whole company is Italy-based now why not celebrate it? We know the Ford Focus was hatched in Europe but that doesn't make me cry the blues (a completely American art form btw).

The commercial in question.
02-01-2013 12:03 PM
mjd4277 Has anyone here aside from me actually sat in one and DRIVEN IT??
02-01-2013 11:19 AM
FLYLOW
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Originally Posted by Focus YBTC View Post
It looks alright but come on, the car it's based on the Alfa Romeo Giulietta is one of the best looking sedans ever. I get a little ill looking at the Dodge Darts and what the stylistic geniuses at Chrysler did to it. It's like they put a mustache on the Mona Lisa except it's not as funny as when Marcel Duchamp did it in 1919. Mopar Schmopar, just another name for bad taste.

This is why i lol everytime a see dart commercials on tv... The say it was designed from scratch, that its perfect, thats its very advanced blah blah blah
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