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01-31-2013 10:16 PM
autolite I drove a 2012 Mustang with 305 hp.V6 6 speed got 31 mpg on the highway and went fine in the winter they come with Bf Goodrich advantage ta tires with the traction control.I drove my old 5.0 thru some winters with studded snows and the troction loc it was good.
01-30-2013 02:36 PM
josephd
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Originally Posted by kylesvt720 View Post
This is more due to the fact that historically mustang and camaro owners drive around on high performance all seasons, or summers, and wonder why their cars suck. (Or they drive an old mustang with bald tires.) My friends 2008 GT/CS mustang is better in the snow on blizzaks than either of my Foci were with the same blizzaks.



Assuming you are basing this on most dumb mustang owners? Heavier car with 2 wheels pushing it, vs a Focus with 1 wheel pulling it?
I have also seen dumb 4WD owners on the side of the road in snow storms.;-)
But I agree that it does come down to the right tires, and proper driving for the conditions.
It also depends upon the car. My 84 Escort I once owned was a tank in the snow with all season Michelins.
Whereas, my Focus is a nightmare without snows all the way around.
The high performance RWD cars of today are not practical or sensible means of transportation when the weather turns bad, they are toys.
01-30-2013 02:30 PM
crazy_urn
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Originally Posted by kylesvt720 View Post
This is more due to the fact that historically mustang and camaro owners drive around on high performance all seasons, or summers, and wonder why their cars suck. (Or they drive an old mustang with bald tires.) My friends 2008 GT/CS mustang is better in the snow on blizzaks than either of my Foci were with the same blizzaks.
Hence why I said "but most of that is probably driver error and lack of snow tires.."
01-30-2013 02:26 PM
kylesvt720
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If it were me, I'd go with the AWD over the RWD. Don't know if you have a snow beater, but I see far too many mustangs stuck on the side of the road around here.

but most of that is probably driver error and lack of snow tires...
This is more due to the fact that historically mustang and camaro owners drive around on high performance all seasons, or summers, and wonder why their cars suck. (Or they drive an old mustang with bald tires.) My friends 2008 GT/CS mustang is better in the snow on blizzaks than either of my Foci were with the same blizzaks.

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he Mustang IMO would be a bit useless come winter.
Assuming you are basing this on most dumb mustang owners? Heavier car with 2 wheels pushing it, vs a Focus with 1 wheel pulling it?
01-30-2013 02:15 PM
ZX4STDoug
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If it were me, I'd go with the AWD over the RWD. Don't know if you have a snow beater, but I see far too many mustangs stuck on the side of the road around here.

but most of that is probably driver error and lack of snow tires...
Nope, one car here. Don't want or need 2 or 3 cars in a "fleet."

I've always been a proponent of dedicated winter tires/wheels, and would run them on any car I purchased, regardless of where the drive wheels are at. I'd of course probably have to be a bit more cautious with the Mustang than the WRX, but common sense would prevail and I honestly don't think I'd have much of an issue in our winters.
01-30-2013 02:10 PM
josephd I am Ford man like my Dad. My dream car has always been The Shelby Mustang. The new V6 Mustang puts out impressive specs, but it is still not a V-8 Shelby.
At the end of the day, I cannot afford two cars. The Mustang IMO would be a bit useless come winter.
So, if I had to choose between the two. I went with the WRX, you can pick apart it's quirks. But every car has their own, one way or the other.
I feel with the WRX, you get the AWD traction. And still a lot of fun to drive, with still impressive specs.
01-30-2013 02:00 PM
crazy_urn If it were me, I'd go with the AWD over the RWD. Don't know if you have a snow beater, but I see far too many mustangs stuck on the side of the road around here.

but most of that is probably driver error and lack of snow tires...
01-30-2013 01:49 PM
ZX4STDoug Agreed - it's a vastly underrated drivetrain, but there's enough in the perf. package I'd still go with it. Other than the typical tune, intake/exhaust and some susp. tweaks, I'd most likely leave it alone modification wise.

I honestly really like the current bodystyle and it doesn't bother me that a new/improved Mustang is around the corner - same situation with the WRX. I'll keep whatever I get 3 years probably and then move on to something else.
01-30-2013 01:27 PM
Buickboy I vote Mustang unless you really, really, need to haul stuff. I still miss my hatch sometimes

Perf package only if you arent going to mod it. Wheels and a drop undo most of it, I believe the 3.31's are available separately too

Anyone who talks shit about the new V6's has their head very far up their ass. These are the best performance car in that price range. They can handle, stop and drag very well. High 13's stock, high 12's once you have bolt-ons, gears and slicks and can drive. Disgusting levels of turning grip with the right tires. Amazing aftermarket.

If you keep your foot out of it and use cruise at the speedlimit youll find that you can AVERAGE high 20's mixed, and low 30's all highway. Right now Im sitting at 28.8mpg over the life of the car.

You can fit 4 adults no problem as long as you arent carting around whiny

Yes, it's supposed to get the ecoboost and IRS for 2015 as well as a redesign. The current cars so good though that if you love it get one.
01-30-2013 01:06 PM
ZX4STDoug
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LOL ^

I respect the mustang v6s, throwing down as much power as the GTs of just a few years ago.

But if it were me, I would always go WRX over Mustang.

Something about hatches, man. Aftermarket is probably about the same for both.

but if your commute was a concern with the ST, these choices might not be any better haha
I've driven many WRXs over the years, and have ridden in a friend's. Definitely not as bad as the ST was on the freeway. I took the Mustang and ST on the same 45 minute drive when I tested them the same day. The Mustang I could live with on the freeway, the ST not so much.

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Since the other car is AWD (big fan here) and a versatile hatchback, the Mustang would be a hard sell if it were me.

I don't know how much longer the life cycle is on the WRX, but the Mustang is getting a major change for 2014, so now would be the worst time to buy one unless you're totally in love with the current one and know you won't like the new one. There's a lot of different mock-ups of what it may look like, but one way or the other, 2014 keeps popping up as the year it happens. The pictures I've seen suggest strong influence from the Camaro and G37, along with the new Ford Aston-Martin-ish grille.

They're great cars, but I think they'll be greater next year, so if you end up getting your heart set on one, I'd soldier on another year with the VW. Again, just an opinion.
We're being told the new ('14) WRX will be "introduced" in November, and the STI variant in January of 2014. That means on the ground in Feb. or March of 2014, most likely. I would gather the new Mustang is going to be a similar time frame and I'm just not willing to drive my car another year or so. I'm tired, I'm kind of over it. Maybe that isn't the rational thing to do, but I don't see myself keeping it much longer than late spring/early summer.
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