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01-22-2013 07:16 PM
amc49 Well thank you...................sorry if what I say so offends you. No insult meant or intended of course................

Infomercial.............................LOL--at me of course. Sometimes I am such an idiot.

A bored congregation often finds itself at the entry to the devil's workshop............or so they say...........
01-22-2013 06:43 PM
goinloco1
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Originally Posted by amc49 View Post
Manufacturers often say nothing else needed, so what? Many times they are also full of crap I've found. I don't hesitate to work around their instruction if I see the need.

Antisieze virtually has no more body than that drop of oil, it will also leak no more. Haven't seen one do it yet. It is designed to squeeze out to not make a buffer. If the connection slips then crap connector as I have already alluded to by looking at the design. You yourself say good luck trying to pull pipe out of one so it shouldn't be a problem.

I've got 3 universal stainless cats installed in steel tube exhaust pipe with antisieze and no trouble. Tube in a tube installation, no flanges. Never retightened them once, been running for years. Not manifold type but undercar cats where entire exhaust pipe weight hangs on them along with front/rear engine movement since no flexjoint used in system.

I used to build heat exchangers 6 inches long up to 40 foot long for battleships and nuclear reactors using 100% stainless construction so I kinda know what it will do and not do.........there were specific steps to take coating sealing joints there if carbon steel used instead of stainless to connect pipes up to the stainless unit.

The corrosion of steel onto the stainless will still have a tendency to stick it after years of service. I've seen stainless to regular steel connections that were stuck together almost as bad as steel to steel to where some destruction of parts had to occur to separate them. The steel almost welds itself to the stainless.........

Now if you commonly take the joint apart, fine. But if you put it together with years in mind before it comes back apart? What you'll find is that even with antisieze on it there can be trouble getting it apart. It DOES lower the effort to do so though, where it shines best. Since starting to use it, I've never had to destroy or deform an antisiezed connection to disassemble it, and that's the way I like it. I use it on all exhaust pipe work and have never had any trouble with any loosening parts ever. Nuts and bolts come loose easy too even if they look totally corroded, they don't break their studs. Nice.
Anyone ever tell you you sound like a damn infomercial... I'll leave you to your little world of anti sieze.
Keep preaching to the choir, you bored the congregation.
Threads all yours, have at er.
01-22-2013 06:34 PM
goinloco1
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These clamps are great for dropping exhaust systems quickly. I wouldn't want to run them full time. At the dragstrip, see many dropping systems in seconds. Cool idea for the needy.
would depend which ones are used. there are different lengths.
Haven't looked under any newer cars lately have you?
Funny how many cars are running around on the hiways not dropping exhausts isn't it? Almost every manufacturer uses these or flange w/v-band since going to stainless exhaust.
I've never seen one come apart at the strip, and I spend alot of time at different tracks with different forms of racing.

Hell, semi's have been using these for years
01-22-2013 06:45 AM
coldbear These clamps are great for dropping exhaust systems quickly. I wouldn't want to run them full time. At the dragstrip, see many dropping systems in seconds. Cool idea for the needy.
01-22-2013 03:59 AM
amc49 Manufacturers often say nothing else needed, so what? Many times they are also full of crap I've found. I don't hesitate to work around their instruction if I see the need.

Antisieze virtually has no more body than that drop of oil, it will also leak no more. Haven't seen one do it yet. It is designed to squeeze out to not make a buffer. If the connection slips then crap connector as I have already alluded to by looking at the design. You yourself say good luck trying to pull pipe out of one so it shouldn't be a problem.

I've got 3 universal stainless cats installed in steel tube exhaust pipe with antisieze and no trouble. Tube in a tube installation, no flanges. Never retightened them once, been running for years. Not manifold type but undercar cats where entire exhaust pipe weight hangs on them along with front/rear engine movement since no flexjoint used in system.

I used to build heat exchangers 6 inches long up to 40 foot long for battleships and nuclear reactors using 100% stainless construction so I kinda know what it will do and not do.........there were specific steps to take coating sealing joints there if carbon steel used instead of stainless to connect pipes up to the stainless unit.

The corrosion of steel onto the stainless will still have a tendency to stick it after years of service. I've seen stainless to regular steel connections that were stuck together almost as bad as steel to steel to where some destruction of parts had to occur to separate them. The steel almost welds itself to the stainless.........

Now if you commonly take the joint apart, fine. But if you put it together with years in mind before it comes back apart? What you'll find is that even with antisieze on it there can be trouble getting it apart. It DOES lower the effort to do so though, where it shines best. Since starting to use it, I've never had to destroy or deform an antisiezed connection to disassemble it, and that's the way I like it. I use it on all exhaust pipe work and have never had any trouble with any loosening parts ever. Nuts and bolts come loose easy too even if they look totally corroded, they don't break their studs. Nice.
01-22-2013 12:39 AM
goinloco1
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Originally Posted by amc49 View Post
You gotta understand antisieze, it allows coupling tightness to cut through it, it is not meant to slide so much as come loose easier way on down the line. Use it as a grease for something that works a lot and like no grease at all in five minutes. Two different things. The exhaust heat will cook out the grease portion in maybe a day. Even if connector is stainless if the pipe is regular steel it can stick even though you'd think it wouldn't BTDT. I wouldn't hesitate to coat the whole ID.............having done it before. All the slipfit connections on every car I have are antisiezed when they come apart, not one has ever been a problem. If it slips then not tight enough............or sized wrong, that connectors' type of space take up has very little range, look at how much space between the bolt heads and nuts, not much clamping distance there.
you have to understand stainless evidently and I'm not an 18 year old like you seem to think.
Old racers trick... drop of oil on the inside surface spread very thinly with the finger to allow the surfaces to slide when tightened. run vehicle to operating temp and re-tighten if necessary.
Anti-seize has a problem in this app...to much of a chance for leaks, you have to constantly retighten or reset components, and you want metal to metal for friction, no buffer.
Even manufacturers install says to just install them... nothing more.
01-21-2013 07:43 PM
amc49 You gotta understand antisieze, it allows coupling tightness to cut through it, it is not meant to slide so much as come loose easier way on down the line. Use it as a grease for something that works a lot and like no grease at all in five minutes. Two different things. The exhaust heat will cook out the grease portion in maybe a day. Even if connector is stainless if the pipe is regular steel it can stick even though you'd think it wouldn't BTDT. I wouldn't hesitate to coat the whole ID.............having done it before. All the slipfit connections on every car I have are antisiezed when they come apart, not one has ever been a problem. If it slips then not tight enough............or sized wrong, that connectors' type of space take up has very little range, look at how much space between the bolt heads and nuts, not much clamping distance there.
01-21-2013 09:47 AM
sailor A similar style has been std. for the 5" pipes on big rigs for years, seals up pretty well & holds fine. great to "butt join" same size pipe. Imagine having to "flare" pipe that large!
01-21-2013 01:37 AM
goinloco1
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Use antiseize liberally and it will disassemble easier in the future..........
on nothing more than the bolt threads.
These are a stainless steel friction fit exhaust coupler... you don't want anything anywhere that would cause them to slide.
01-21-2013 12:02 AM
amc49 Use antiseize liberally and it will disassemble easier in the future..........
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